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Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by yen223 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @11:10AM (#12173423)
This is the profit centre vs cost centre problem. Companies are incentivized to spend more on developers, since developers build features, and features drive sales, and sales drive profit.

SysOps folks keep the site up, but once you start hitting >99% reliability, throwing more money at sysops isn't going to increase revenue.

Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by caminante on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:46PM (#12174958)
From a "job security" lens, the sysops crew needed to keep the site up will be the last to go during downsizing.
Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by Sharlin on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:50PM (#12175538)
There are plenty of managers with the "why are we paying them when everything just works?" mentality.
Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by Natsu on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:15PM (#12176902)
Yeah, firefighting is a more visible show of "value" to those not directly involved than reliability is, because nobody at too many places likes to ask why we're always fighting fires in the first place.
Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by bpchaps on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:38PM (#12175439)
Not always. I was one of the only devops/linux admin at a past job and was in one of the first rounds of layoffs. It's a bit dangerous to think that just because you're critical, you're immune - on paper, you're probably also one of the most costly.
Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by jldugger on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:16PM (#12177524)
> SysOps folks keep the site up, but once you start hitting >99% reliability, throwing more money at sysops isn't going to increase revenue.

Which is why SRE evolved from ad driven sites like google -- all uptime is worth money.

Re:Salary transparency at Stack Overflow by yen223 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:58PM (#12177677)
Yup, it's always a good idea to figure out a way to position yourself as the profit generator, instead of overhead whose costs needs to be minimized.

Funny thing, tech is pretty unique among industry sectors in that engineers are part of the profit centre. Just about everyone else treats engineers as operational costs.