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Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by MichaelGG on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:56AM (#12171594)
Unfortunately, nothing comes close to ThinkPads. I dislike Lenovo a lot and would ditch them at first chance. No vendor wants to be that chance though. (Proper keyboard, 3-physical-button pad/point, not too hot, etc.)

I'm not too concerned about Superfish - that was only the consumer junk, right? The BIOS-Windows-auto-install stuff was more concerning. But hey, little choices. Lenovo is certainly incompetent - look at the X240/T440 with the terrible pad design they backtracked on (obvious). Or the Carbon keyboards they ended up ditching.

Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by pmontra on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:58AM (#12172055)
> Proper keyboard, 3-physical-button pad/point, not too hot

HP's ZBooks? You can even replace almost any component inside. I got the first generation model (15") and it's very good. Sure, it's not light and slim.

Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by turnip1979 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:28AM (#12171713)
What thinkpad would u get today? I looked into the T460 but (a) they seem to have many variants within the same model and (b) I saw too many negative reviews online.
Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by MichaelGG on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:46AM (#12171788)
The T440p was bulky, hot - total shit. The graphics were super weak, and the screen was utter junk. Dunno if the newer ones are considerably better; they probably fixed a lot.

The X250 is pretty good, though you get a keyboard at random and will need to replace the part (always get next business day warranty) if you get one of the junk ones. Otherwise it's a nice laptop - I've not seen anything I like more (though it could be better, of course; a 3:2 screen for starters).

I've used a T450s, and the keyboard feels fantastic on it. At 3K res it'd probably real nice. Unless you need a specific CPU/GPU, stick with the X260/T460s (s for slim). Perhaps compare reviews to the X250/T450s to see if it got worse?

Assuming you don't need high-end power (like quad core), it's more of a preference if you want a small 12" or a larger screen. I dock my X250 and it seems fine, even driving a higher-pixel external monitor. I'd go for the X260, but if software support was better for hiDPI I might consider the T450s. (If they had centred keyboards without numpad, maybe even a 15" model.)

Edit: FWIW when using it in laptop mode, I run CPU throttled to 50% or less to keep it cool. I have the cheaper i5-5200U option and it's fine for emacs/VS/browsing. At full power it can play Dolphin emulator Smash Brothers Brawl and Melee at full speed, but just barely.

Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by ThePhysicist on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:35AM (#12171740)
The T460p is a very good deal if you want something light, powerful and extensible for a very good price. You can get a version with a quad-core i7, dedicated Nvidia graphics card and 3k display for about 1400 USD. Combined with a three-year guarantee it's a very good deal I'd say, and much better than what most other manufacturers (including Dell and Apple) offer for this price. I also own an X1 Carbon, which is a great laptop but a little underpowered for my needs (and hard/impossible to upgrade).
Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by MichaelGG on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:47AM (#12171793)
How's the heat on the T460p? Can you use it for light work without the keyboard heating up at all?
Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by ThePhysicist on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @11:13AM (#12173452)
it heats up a bit under heavy load, but not more than my earlier Thinkpads.

The X1 Carbon is much cooler but also less powerful ;)

Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by zem on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:36PM (#12176308)
x1 carbon, definitely. i'm using the 1st gen carbon at work, and other than the sadly crappy battery life it's been a wonderful machine
Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by smhg on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:35AM (#12172220)
Don't forget the Ctrl - Fn key swap.

On some Lenovo models they are the same size (and can be swapped), but not on the Carbon X1.

Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by FT_intern on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @10:27AM (#12173022)
I assume this was implemented to improve usability for people with short fingers. As someone with tiny fingers, I would rather have a huge Ctrl key and a tiny fn key
Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by dorfsmay on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:49AM (#12172290)
I'm in the same boat. Additionally there is a huge immunity of people running Linux on the thinkpads which make it easier to pick the right components when buying, and sovle and find work around when you do hit a problem.
Re:Xiaomi’s first laptop is a Macbook Air rival by JBiserkov on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @10:27AM (#12173023)
I know this is probably auto-correct, but find it hilarious that you misspelled 'community' as 'immunity' :-)