Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by LinuxBender on Monday July 25, 2016 @02:59PM
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I agree with you. Every time I bring that up, I get down-voted due to the cognitive dissonance that folks have with their fondle-slabs. Now people are being conditioned to think it's normal for their microphone to always be on.
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Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by shostack on Monday July 25, 2016 @03:04PM
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Are there any good low-tech ways to disable them similar to tape over the camera? Not sure if tape alone would be sufficient to block audio.
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by tombrossman on Monday July 25, 2016 @05:11PM
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Depending on the handset model, you can open one up and physically remove (or disable) the mic, and use it with a wired headset that you plug in when you want to make or receive a call.
Admittedly it is a bit drastic, but low-tech and very effective.
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by dyladan on Monday July 25, 2016 @03:09PM
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Most cell phones have pretty low-quality microphones. My guess is that a basic white-noise generator in an inaudible frequency would render the microphone pretty much useless. That being said, there is the problem of then having to maintain the white noise generator.
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by loueed on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:29PM
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Stick a neodymium magnet next to it, joking please don't do that
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by hx87 on Monday July 25, 2016 @03:07PM
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A white noise generator placed over the microphone, perhaps?
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by nitrogen on Monday July 25, 2016 @03:49PM
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White noise can be filtered out if it's not louder than the source sound within the frequency bands of interest over the time interval that matters for interpreting speech. So make sure it's loud, and maybe contour the noise to match the frequency distribution of speech, and maybe make it unpredictably variable over time.
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by filoeleven on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:52PM
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One neat idea from Neal Stephenson's Anathem (with likely analogues elsewhere) is essentially a chatterbox that records people speaking in a conversation, chops up the audio into syllables, and plays those back at random to foil eavesdroppers. This might work better than white noise, assuming you trust the computer that's doing the scrambling!
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by DashRattlesnake on Monday July 25, 2016 @04:44PM
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But wouldn't it only have to be loud at the microphone? So a quiet but very close white noise source (e.g. something taped directly over the microphone) could mask a louder but more distant source?
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by blackrose on Monday July 25, 2016 @07:49PM
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> fondle-slabs
It's hilarious because it's true.
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by StavrosK on Monday July 25, 2016 @07:35PM
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To be fair, calling them "fondle-slabs" can't be helping your argument.
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by LinuxBender on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @12:45PM
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I got that from The Register and I agree with their assessment. I can't walk 50 feet without seeing someone with their face buried in their phone, even while they are walking around town, oblivious to the world around them.
It actually reminds of an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation where the ship was commandeered after the crew were "drugged" by a hypnotic game. I believe the episode was "The Game".
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by pmarreck on Monday July 25, 2016 @05:52PM
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> fondle-slabs
you mean zombie phones? ;)
Seriously, what you're talking about is one of the reasons I've wanted to get a Blackphone... but I think I saw a blip on my radar that it may be compromised
Re:UK surveillance bill includes powers to limit end-to-end ...
by voltagex_ on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @01:50AM
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Your choices now seem to be a pair-locked and hardened iOS device, or a recent Android running CopperheadOS. http://readwrite.com/2015/03/05/blackphone-2-privacy-mwc-spi... has some more details on what happened to the Blackphone.