Re:Fresh work on the mathematics of bicycles in motion
by sdkjfwiluf on Wednesday July 20, 2016 @02:15PM
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what was the conclusion ? it's not gyroscopic effects because they still balance with counter-rotating wheels, it's not trail because they can still balance with negative trail. Is it some of each of these effects, if so how much ? What else is involved ?
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Re:Fresh work on the mathematics of bicycles in motion
by jessaustin on Wednesday July 20, 2016 @03:41PM
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According to TFA (and to this avid cyclist it makes sense) it is the combination of the two effects you mention and weight distribution. Novel bikes can be constructed that tweak one of these inputs into an unsuitable range and yet still balance, but I really doubt you could mess up all three and still have a bicycle.
Re:Fresh work on the mathematics of bicycles in motion
by sliverstorm on Wednesday July 20, 2016 @04:12PM
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I think negative trail works pretty much the same way as positive trail; I think the question is, does a bike with zero trail work. I'm guessing it can be done, but experience with various motorcycles (which have a wide range of rake) suggest trail is desirable for other reasons too.