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Re:What’s Behind the Ballooning Upper Middle Class? Education by ktRolster on Sunday July 17, 2016 @04:12PM (#12111583)
If you pay for a 2 bedroom apartment, transportation, food

The price of a two bedroom apartment in SF will get you a 3,000 sq ft house with a quarter acre of land elsewhere.

Re:What’s Behind the Ballooning Upper Middle Class? Education by douche on Sunday July 17, 2016 @04:17PM (#12111611)
The numbers I've seen here and there for a SF 2-BR would cover the mortgage on a 160 acre farm, plus the financing on new equipment to run it.
Re:What’s Behind the Ballooning Upper Middle Class? Education by jacobolus on Sunday July 17, 2016 @04:49PM (#12111749)
If you have 2–4 people, a 3000 sq. ft. house is in my opinion worse quality of life than a 1500 sq. ft. flat, because you have double the rooms to clean, for little tangible advantage. If you feel you need the space for a bowling alley / film screening theater / wood shop / large library / child’s playground / art gallery / industrial kitchen / space to host an 80-person party / rooms for 10 guests / ..., in the city you can find all those within walking or easy transit ride distance.
Re:What’s Behind the Ballooning Upper Middle Class? Education by ktRolster on Sunday July 17, 2016 @06:21PM (#12112153)

  >double the rooms...for little tangible advantage.
IF you can't understand why some people consider a larger house to be an advantage, then you are really failing to understand a large segment of humanity.
Re:What’s Behind the Ballooning Upper Middle Class? Education by jacobolus on Sunday July 17, 2016 @10:55PM (#12113013)
You seem to have missed the “in my opinion” part. Sure, some family of 3–4 might want an enormous house, e.g. to show off for the neighbors, put up the whole extended family as visitors under one roof, have a personal machine shop, give each family member 2 exclusive personal bathrooms, or whatever. For me, a bigger house would lead to worse quality of life.

I grew up in a mixed-class suburb, and many of my friends were the children of professionals (doctors, dentists, lawyers, businesspeople, etc.) with very large houses. So yes, I understand that some people think it’s important/useful to have a large house. None of them seemed to have a higher quality of life than my friends whose parents were professors, artists, teachers, etc. and lived in “normal-sized” 1000–1800 sq. ft. houses. In general, the large-house parents worked all the time, commuted longer distances, spent less time with their kids, and seemed generally less happy. On average the kids were probably also somewhat less happy. Having a big house, and having fancier material possessions more generally, isn’t really the most useful priority for most people to meet their primary life goals, in my opinion. YMMV.

At a world-wide scale, if every family needs to have a 3000+ square foot mansion on a separate lot, we’ll stay on track to wreck the planet.

Re:What’s Behind the Ballooning Upper Middle Class? Education by ktRolster on Monday July 18, 2016 @12:57AM (#12113277)
You seem to have missed the “in my opinion” part.

Your opinion here really only matters on the order of 1/300millionth of the whole.....