Re:Attempted Military Coup D'Etat Underway in Turkey, Prime ...
by deftnerd on Friday July 15, 2016 @04:47PM
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I was unaware that Jalopnik did more than report on car-related news.
Historically, the Turkish military has been a sort of check on the democratically elected government. If the government gets too secular or gets packed with fundamentalists, they seize power and institute new elections.
When Erdogan got into power, he must have feared that his new fundamentalist policies might put him in danger so he tried to weaken the military leadership as much as possible. Looks like he didn't weaken it enough.
If history is repeating itself, and this succeeds, then this is a good thing for those in Turkey who are secular and love the cultural connections to Europe.
Re:Attempted Military Coup D'Etat Underway in Turkey, Prime ...
by cperciva on Friday July 15, 2016 @04:46PM
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It sounds like many social media sites are being blocked in Turkey (by which side, I have no idea). Since I doubt HN is on their list: If anyone in Turkey is reading this and wants me to relay messages to their friends and family outside of Turkey, I'll be happy to do so.
(Tor may also be a solution for some people, but for all I know that might get blocked too.)
Re:Attempted Military Coup D'Etat Underway in Turkey, Prime ...
by getgoingnow on Friday July 15, 2016 @04:50PM
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"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason." - John Harington
Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said this is illegal. Well, if the military wins, then it will be called 'fight for freedom' or something like that. It's a question of legitimacy of state power. Traitors are those who lose.
Re:Attempted Military Coup D'Etat Underway in Turkey, Prime ...
by dexwiz on Friday July 15, 2016 @04:48PM
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Turkey is the major buffer between Europe and the Middle East right now. A change in power could have long lasting implications on immigration, the spread of ISIS, Saudi Arabia's allies in the region, and the flow of oil to Europe.
Historically, the Turkish military has been a sort of check on the democratically elected government. If the government gets too secular or gets packed with fundamentalists, they seize power and institute new elections.
When Erdogan got into power, he must have feared that his new fundamentalist policies might put him in danger so he tried to weaken the military leadership as much as possible. Looks like he didn't weaken it enough.
If history is repeating itself, and this succeeds, then this is a good thing for those in Turkey who are secular and love the cultural connections to Europe.
If the government gets too religious. At least that was the case last time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Turkish_military_memorand...
(Tor may also be a solution for some people, but for all I know that might get blocked too.)
Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said this is illegal. Well, if the military wins, then it will be called 'fight for freedom' or something like that. It's a question of legitimacy of state power. Traitors are those who lose.