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Re:Autopilot not on during crash in PA, Musk says it would h... by salgernon on Thursday July 14, 2016 @07:16PM (#12097914)
It's probably allowed in the T&C of owning a tesla, but is anyone else bothered by Musk calling out details of log files that "normals" probably aren't aware of?

Should people expect any privacy with regards this data? Maybe just share it with the NTSB and allow them to issue the statement that this accident was entirely not tesla's fault?

Re:Autopilot not on during crash in PA, Musk says it would h... by cperciva on Thursday July 14, 2016 @07:33PM (#12097991)
It's probably allowed in the T&C of owning a tesla, but is anyone else bothered by Musk calling out details of log files that "normals" probably aren't aware of?

It's quite common in investigations of plane crashes that the aircraft manufacturer is involved in the investigation and makes public statements (usually to the effect of "we've ruled out any problems with our plane... must be those darn pilots again"). The situation with cars is a bit different in that it's (usually) private individuals rather than professionals, but I'd say that the track records of car safety vs. aircraft safety definitely point towards following the model used for air crash investigations.

Re:Autopilot not on during crash in PA, Musk says it would h... by greglindahl on Thursday July 14, 2016 @07:39PM (#12098037)
Data from black boxes about particular Toyota "unintended acceleration" cases became public, and some people were worried:

http://www.geek.com/mobile/toyota-acceleration-case-shows-wh...

In that case, Toyota's horrible programming practices do make it possible that the logfile doesn't fully reflect reality:

http://www.edn.com/design/automotive/4423428/Toyota-s-killer...

Re:Autopilot not on during crash in PA, Musk says it would h... by nashashmi on Friday July 15, 2016 @07:52AM (#12100317)
Elon musk is a stiff defender of his company and its practices. He will go on the offensive just to protect the name, nevermind politeness and formality.