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Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by neuromute on Thursday July 14, 2016 @06:50AM (#12092778)
I've been using Gimp for many years now, and it serves me well. I learnt Photoshop at university, on a Multimedia Tech course. Whilst Photoshop is a fine piece of software, it is overkill for most users. Gimp might be hard to get to grips with for long-time Photoshop users, but it isn't hard, it just takes some muscle-memory adjustment. For users who have never used either, Gimp is a great piece of software to use from the get-go.

I've also used Krita of late, and that too is a very good piece of software worth checking out if you want to do photo-editing and digital painting.

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by jfaucett on Thursday July 14, 2016 @07:27AM (#12092906)
here's the problem. Photoshop blows gimp out of the water in every way that is important to designers. GIMP is quite adept at simpler tasks/flows i.e. the stuff most people might want to do to an image, crop, put some text, etc. really no major diff here between it and ps. and this is why i teach it to relatives/friends who want to edit their images on a budget.

But it is very difficult to make professional grade designs/templates/mockups with gimp (i would venture impossible but im sure someone could do it given enough discipline just as someone could build a httpserver in pure x86 if they really wanted to)

source: long time Gimp and Photoshop user, have worked professionally as a UX/UI/Graphic designer and software developer, and have really tried to get on board with gimp bc its open source, saves $50 monthly, and is hackable all unlike ps, it even has a lisp scripting language! I couldnt do it even with that much goodwill so i honestly cant see any less motivated designer using it.

EDIT: of course designers or a ps alternative might not be gimps market at all, and instead just normal end users, in which case gimp should definitely not be criticized. I think people (unjustly perhaps) want gimp to be a ps alternative for designers, its not. plain and simple.

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by beefsack on Thursday July 14, 2016 @07:40AM (#12092960)
Parent commenter mentioned "most users," designers are the power users in this vertical and wouldn't constitute the majority.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by xsmasher on Thursday July 14, 2016 @12:36PM (#12095278)
It's fine for most computer users, but not most Photoshop users.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by jshevek on Thursday July 14, 2016 @01:26PM (#12095693)
Most designers might be photoshop users, but its not true that most photoshop users are designers.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by groovy2shoes on Thursday July 14, 2016 @10:51AM (#12094293)
> someone could build a httpserver in pure x86 if they really wanted to

You mean something like this? http://asm32.info/index.cgi?page=content/0_MiniMagAsm/index....

EDIT: Scratch that, it's just a CGI application and not an HTTP server on its own. Still, I think it's pretty neat :)

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by cocotino on Thursday July 14, 2016 @08:36AM (#12093184)
No layer styles for example makes GIMP unusable for me.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by JoeAltmaier on Thursday July 14, 2016 @08:43AM (#12093221)
Last time I tried, GIMP couldn't even import a layered image. It just flattened it. Useless. I have Gb of images; I can't even begin to use GIMP unless my investment is preserved.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by prokoudine on Thursday July 14, 2016 @09:48AM (#12093712)
> Last time I tried, GIMP couldn't even import a layered image.

Glad to see you are back to GIMP for the first time since 1998.

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by JoeAltmaier on Thursday July 14, 2016 @10:49AM (#12094269)
Be fair. Since about 2 years ago. Just installed latest (2.8), and I see it has a new menu item - Open as Layers. So cool.

And also to be fair, from my perspective that leaves GIMP only a few years behind other packages.

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by prokoudine on Thursday July 14, 2016 @10:59AM (#12094380)
Be fair. 'Open as Layer' has been around since 2004:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/commit/?id=37912655f207306...

:)

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by JoeAltmaier on Thursday July 14, 2016 @11:37AM (#12094736)
So all this time I just missed that menu item? Believable; I am pretty dense sometimes. Gotta wonder why though, with a 'flatten' option already there, there's need for two versions of 'Open File', one that screws you and one that works, but that's probably history.

I admit I use GIMP all the time, and have for years. It has a scripting language (ok just Lisp but with image-processing primitives) that I use to generate hundreds of images for card games. Photoshop has some arcane scripting ability but they sell it. My game club didn't want to pay, which is reasonable. So GIMP has been useful to me for years.

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by kleiba on Thursday July 14, 2016 @03:18PM (#12096501)
Two posts earlier:

> I can't even begin to use GIMP unless my investment is preserved.

Now:

> I admit I use GIMP all the time, and have for years.

Huh?

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by JoeAltmaier on Thursday July 14, 2016 @03:26PM (#12096544)
Like I said in the previous post, I use it (exclusively) for the scripts. Launch GIMP, run my script, exit. I haven't so much as opened a file in GIMP for years.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by prokoudine on Friday July 15, 2016 @06:23AM (#12099930)
> So all this time I just missed that menu item? Believable; I am pretty dense sometimes.

That's quite all right. I'm not perfect either :)

> Gotta wonder why though, with a 'flatten' option already there, there's need for two versions of 'Open File', one that screws you and one that works

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that. Open File opennns files as new images. Open as Layer appends an image to an already opened one. Or am I reading you wrong?

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by vmarsy on Thursday July 14, 2016 @01:32PM (#12095749)
The issue is Gimp tries to look like Photoshop very hard, so people tend to compare the 2. But if we compare 2 Free popular painting software: MS Paint and Gimp, then Gimp is awesome, for non professional use I love Gimp. If I were a professional image editor I would buy Photoshop.

On my windows 10 machine, I hope I'll be able to run Gimp. I don't know if the Linux Subsystem makes it possible. https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4ea4w4/fyi_you_c...

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by camclay on Thursday July 14, 2016 @01:58PM (#12095962)
They've had a long history of building or other users compiling versions for Windows - https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ - has Windows and Mac OSX as options, as well as Linux.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by newscracker on Thursday July 14, 2016 @03:32PM (#12096595)
On Windows, a better application that sits between MS Paint and GIMP in terms of features, extensibility and power is the free Paint.NET. [1]

[1]: http://www.getpaint.net/

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by jdboyd on Thursday July 14, 2016 @01:39PM (#12095811)
On more than one Windows 10 machine, I have no problems running Gimp 2.8 build for Windows supplied straight from https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ It also works well on Windows 7. I can only assume that means it will probably work OK on the versions between 7 and 10.
Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by Nexxxeh on Thursday July 14, 2016 @04:09PM (#12096820)
I've experienced weird behavior with GIMP on Windows. It mangled my clipboard usage with Teamviewer (wth?), tablet support is hit and miss, and other just plain odd behavior.

That's not a complaint, I've no right to complain as I've not documented and raised the bugs.[1] I've just worked around them, which I appreciate is selfish.

But it works just as well/badly on 7, 8.1u1, and 10 in my experience. And it's still my go-to image editor for anything that Irfanview can't do.

[1]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRME...

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by smrtinsert on Thursday July 14, 2016 @02:26PM (#12096177)
gimp can't even begin to compare with Photoshop on a filter level, especially in areas like burn/dodge. I don't know how it applies it but Photoshops application of filters is much more intelligent. Not to mention Gimp has an absolutely baffling ui philosophy (paste as layer/yellow square/brushes not painting) while Kritas seems sane at least, mimicing popular photoshop features and even improving it in some cases.

In an ideal world, gimp is retired and Krita becomes the Photoshop alternative and the community can focus on really getting behind Krita.

Re:Gimp 2.9.4 Released by buovjaga on Thursday July 14, 2016 @03:28PM (#12096558)
That goes against the product vision of Krita, though. Krita is a painting application, not a photo editor. The defining of the vision was a Eureka moment for the developers. http://blog.mmiworks.net/2010/03/working-on-vision-with.html