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Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by ForHackernews on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:05AM (#12084636)
> customers will see value in the better product that keeps them in.

How is Uber a "better product" than a taxi? As far as I can tell, it's competing on price, and that's it. If cabs were the same price as Uber, I would take a taxi every time.

Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by passthefist on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:57AM (#12084867)
I think it's more convenient, and I've had better experiences with rideshare drivers than any taxi.

You can just call one from your apartment when headed across town instead of waiting for one to drive by on the street. In my experience calling taxis isn't always reliable. Uber etc. show you the driver's location and distance, and they won't stop to bring someone else to the airport.

I think a big part is the quality of the taxis in your area. In San Francisco, they'd do the "card machine is broken" bit (eventually turning it on when you have no cash), or just not pick you up if you were headed out into the Sunset, or drive a longer way hoping you don't notice.

In Dublin, Ireland, calling an Uber will invariably call a taxi. They're usually friendly folks that don't mind that you're only going a few blocks to bring home your groceries because you missed the bus.

But the bar to call Uber a 'better product' is pretty low. There's nothing it does spectacularly better than Lyft or Flywheel or any other app.

A big part of their value is how low the customer experience can go with a traditional taxi. I just want to rent someone's time for point to point transit without any bullshit.

Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by olalonde on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:26AM (#12084745)
Why would you take a taxi over Uber? In my experience, Uber drivers are more courteous (probably because they know they get rated at the end of the ride) and arrive faster than taxis (in San Francisco). That being said, when I was living in Shenzhen, taking a taxi was more convenient because there are just so many of them and waiting time is really short.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by brianwawok on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @08:52AM (#12085730)
Apaprently you have never taken a taxi in Chicago?

Rusty car. Driver doesnt speak english. Smoking out the window and talking on cell phone in another language. Floors it and slams on the brakes. Seatbelts broken. Credit card machine broken.

Hum why would I take a lyft.

Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by kasey_junk on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @09:09AM (#12085818)
Don't forget, doesn't service large swaths of the city either by population or location.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by tptacek on Thursday July 14, 2016 @05:40PM (#12097374)
Most Uber drivers I've had have used their phone... and gasp often in another language.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by nordsieck on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:16AM (#12084699)
If you live in one of the few places where you can expect to be able to hail a taxi, you're probably right. If you have to call for a taxi, Uber is infinity times more reliable.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by stormbrew on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @11:10AM (#12086739)
There are a handful of cities in north America where this might be true. If you live in one of those, congratulations. For the rest of us the difference is night and day.

As a really simple example, as applies to my city, I have had to wait 2 hours for a taxi more than once. I've never waited more than 25 minutes for an uber. Average times are ballpark 10 minutes vs. 30 minutes.

I would take uber if it were more expensive than taxis any day.

Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by mikeash on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @08:55AM (#12085750)
I'd pay a significant premium over taxis to take Uber. Taxis around here are old and dirty and the drivers are usually crazy. Uber cars are nice and driven by friendly people who aren't usually trying to get me killed.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by wildmusings on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @04:16AM (#12084700)
Are you kidding? Have you ever tried to get a cab outside of Manhattan? It's painful even in the downtown core of major cities. And if you live in the suburbs, you have to call like two hours ahead and there's always a good chance they don't show up. In my experience with Uber, drivers are more courteous, billing is more honest, their cars smell better, and bad drivers are held accountable.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by kuschku on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @05:45AM (#12085020)
Yes, I've called taxis several times in a tiny (280k) city in Germany - they're there faster than the police would come if you'd call 911, they're reliable, clean, and you can pay via app before the ride.

I really don't get what's so good about uber, they're just like taxis, but worse quality, and bending the law.

Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by collyw on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @07:32AM (#12085350)
Thats the thing, taxi quality varies a lot depending where you go. In Barcelona they are reasonably priced and reliable. Istanbul non seemed to have a clue where they were going and didn't bother when you showed them on the phone map. London are pricey and snobby about what they will let you carry in their cab.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by zacharycohn on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @07:57AM (#12085436)
Amusing you mentioned Istanbul. I had forgotten about this, but my cab driver to the airport tried to scam me THREE different ways in one trip. Catching him was almost a game at that point.
Re:Lyft losing as much as $50M a month, president confirms by adiabatty on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @09:06AM (#12085804)
Taxis where I live aren't as good as yours are. That's why Uber is nice — it brings taxi service in my unassuming suburb to the quality you take for granted.