well you're right, but as a side note multiple US presidents have authorized target killings in an undeclared war in countrys that are not part of this "war" with civil casualties .... and both got reelected ....

I'm from germany, we're helping because our government does nothing in stopping the use of Rammstein Airbase as drone satellite uplink. So we are also partly responsible. :(

food for thought

People are not responsible for those they didn't vote for. I know, must be a German thing, but how am I responsible for those sick bastards I disagree with, even if most of the others agree? My persuasion powers are limited.

I think thats really a german thing. Swiss media regularly makes fun of you because your society feels so disconnected to the politics.

IMO if the majority of the society does not agree, it is also their fault if they still let it happen. Its (some kind of) democracy after all.

I live in Switzerland.

That's true but besides the point. Imagine Obama, Bush or Clinton calling on national TV for the killing of all drug addicts and pushers.

> I'm from germany, we're helping because our government does nothing in stopping the use of Rammstein Airbase as drone satellite uplink. So we are also partly responsible. :(

> food for thought

Definitely, but totally OT.

I don't want to be euphemistically. But i've seen several public interviews of all of them where they justified killing people they claimed to be terrorists. While numbers showed that a majority are actually civil victims.

You can not really compare that, but i honestly think thats even worse. At least officially the philippines only kill THEIR PEOPLE people that damage THEIR society.

It's not far from it, only they use the word 'terrorists'. Which is even more vague. And of course they kill indiscriminately whoever happens to be in a given targeted area.

I could see Trump saying that.

*Ramstein. The band name is actually an unintentional misspelling and was apparently originally called Rammstein-Flugschau (again with the misspelling; referring to the air show disaster in 1988 that killed 70 and injured hundreds).

I think nobody in this thread thought the US would be somehow better. But in opposite to civilized countries this approach sounds really extreme.

Sadly history is not a morality play. In it immoral actions are often rewarded and idealists suffer shitty fates. I think that idiot is the wrong insult here (tyrant, cruel, despicable, scum and many others are all fine).

But we live in a world in which Saudi Arabia is chair of the UN human rights council ...

Laws, rights, constitutions - they mean a lot less when no force is capable or willing to enforce them.

> I think that idiot is the wrong insult here

I think it is entirely appropriate for the ruler of a country who instead of attacking the root cause of corruption in that country decides to give license to his population to go and kill each other instead.

> But we live in a world in which Saudi Arabia is chair of the UN human rights council ...

Ugh. I had to go and look that up to make sure you weren't pulling my leg. Sorry for not trusting you.

He is idiot if he does not achieve his goals. If his goals are western democracy - then he is indeed an idiot.

If his goal is strong Philippines under El Presidente that conveniently shares the same name as him ... he is on the right way.

I know I am cynical as a person nearing the age of 350 but after the drug dealer "threat" is dealt with, the corrupted (and his opponents) may as well be his next extrajudical targets.

In every impoverished area there are some local feudal bigshots that do what they please and can get away with anything. Give the poor licence to kill them ... and they will elect you to your grave and beyond.

Democracy does not mean human rights or rule of law ...

Perhaps you can shed some light on how you lived to be almost 350?

Do you exercise or is it purely genetic?

America killed 1,033,000 in iraq war. nobody give a shit. wow.

citation needed. most of deaths were between Iraqis themselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War