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Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by pstuart on Monday July 11, 2016 @08:52PM (#12075959)
> But the police shootings and the recent uptick in domestic racial violence are mostly Clinton’s doings to win the election.

What. The. Fuck. ???

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by themartorana on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:36PM (#12076151)
I love Dilbert. Then this.

Feels like that time I stumbled upon Orson Scott Card's blog.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by sushid on Monday July 11, 2016 @10:14PM (#12076286)
I grew up reading and rereading his books in middle school. What does Orson Scott Card write about in his blogs that's so distasteful?
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by yolesaber on Monday July 11, 2016 @10:25PM (#12076327)
https://www.salon.com/2013/05/07/sci_fi_icon_orson_scott_car...

He wrote some pretty hateful thing about queer people and gay marriage in general. But I think the worst was this, which wasn't on his blog (in the same vein, tho):

> In 2008, Card published his most controversial anti-gay screed yet, in the Mormon Times, where he argued that gay marriage “marks the end of democracy in America,” that homosexuality was a “tragic genetic mixup,” and that allowing courts to redefine marriage was a slippery slope towards total homosexual political rule and the classifying of anyone who disagreed as “mentally ill"

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by themartorana on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:52PM (#12076618)
Look, the Ender series deserves the accolades it has received. Ender's Game remains my favorite sci-fi book of all time. But not all his writings are so great.

"Card has also written... a Shakespearean fanfic of Taming of the Shrew and Hamlet, with bonus flagrant homophobia in which “Old King Hamlet was an inadequate king because he was gay, an evil person because he was gay, and, ultimately...murdered by Horatio, in revenge for molesting him as a young boy—along with Laertes, and Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern, thereby turning all of them gay.”

http://www.dailydot.com/culture/10-famous-authors-fanfiction...

His blog carries many of his writings where his religion (he's Mormon, the great-great-grandson of Brigham Young) and severe right-wing politics combine to continuously make me cringe.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by Mikhail_Edoshin on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @03:21AM (#12077332)
His point is that it's Clinton who tries to antagonize Americans against each other.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by pstuart on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @10:52AM (#12079524)
1. It reads like she orchestrated these events, which is obviously not true.

2. If there's a problem with police and "race relations" in this country (which I believe is the case) it behooves us to address it.

3. I'm not aware of how Clinton is antagonizing Americans against each other over this.

4. Trump is not exactly a uniter, if you know what I mean.

Disclaimer: I'm a Berner who will vote for Clinton under duress.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by mindslight on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @01:03PM (#12080653)
> 2. If there's a problem with police and "race relations" in this country (which I believe is the case) it behooves us to address it.

The point is that race relations are actively being made worse by media narrating the tired identity politics that Clinton represents.

There undoubtedly is a problem of police unaccountability in this country, potentially affecting any of us. The incidents are inherently rare, otherwise they'd be quickly changed through democratic feedback. The media has completely derailed this issue with its racism, framing it as a problem that non-blacks do not need to worry about (but just perhaps feel bad about). I can't think of a better way to preserve the status quo.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by yolesaber on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:58PM (#12076233)
I'm no fan of Clinton but the way people frame inane conspiracies around her is astounding. They paint her as somehow everywhere and nefarious yet at the same time totally inept and unfit to lead this country.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by PhantomGremlin on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:23PM (#12076531)
the way people frame inane conspiracies around her is astounding

She herself sees plenty of conspiracies around her. Here's her direct quote[1]:

"This is — the great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vast_right-wing_conspiracy

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by gnat on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:22PM (#12076525)
I try to avoid most political writing, but I felt that this was worth it: http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/11/1537582/-The-most-thor...
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by glimps9 on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:52PM (#12076208)
> (Trump has never mentioned race in a negative way)

This is my absolute favorite casual-oh-by-the-way-in-parentheses-at-the-end-of-a-paragraph statement. Ever.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by lukas099 on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @12:50AM (#12076814)
Has he mentioned race in a negative way? I don't remember him doing so.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by drewrv on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @02:29AM (#12077118)
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by hackaflocka on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @05:05AM (#12077682)
He has mentioned Mexicans, Syrians, Chinese, Iraqis.

Pretty sure he wasn't speaking positively of them.

He also sub-tweeted about rates of violence of blacks and whites.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by xrikt on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:44PM (#12076179)
So he endorses clinton to stop getting harassed.

Then he posts afterward that he only did it to stop getting harassed while simultaneously promoting trump. I'm sure that'll work out well for him.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by drewrv on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @02:34AM (#12077142)
He's pretty open about how he's into studying the art of "persuasion" and I think this is one of the dumb tricks. By pretending to be threatened by Clinton supporters it makes her and her supporters look bad, or at least as bad as trump supporters.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by perseusprime11 on Monday July 11, 2016 @10:36PM (#12076368)
He is saying Clinton will win in one paragraph and then he is saying Trump will win in a landslide in another paragraph. Which one is it? I read some other blog posts of this guy and now I am losing respect for the guy who came up with Dilbert.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by PhantomGremlin on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:18PM (#12076516)
Which one is it?

Bear with me on this one ...

I loved the movie Pulp Fiction. In it, Jules and Vincent are stone cold killers. They do their job with cool nonchalance. But when something goes wrong they fall apart; they can't cope with changed circumstances. They're utterly helpless until Winston Wolfe rescues them. In summary, the domain over which they can be considered "experts" is very limited.

Another example is Charles Barkley, a great basketball player of the not-too-distant past. When someone questioned him about his off-court behavior, he said: "I'm not a role model... Just because I dunk a basketball doesn't mean I should raise your kids."

Same with Scott Adams. I like him as a cynical observer of the contemporary American workplace. As for who he thinks will win the election, I couldn't care less. And I surely don't won't let him influence who I vote for.

You can enjoy Dilbert without knowing anything about Scott Adams.

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by perseusprime11 on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @10:02PM (#12083503)
Good explanation but still can't get him out of my head Everytime I look at Dilbert.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by anonnyj on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @12:53AM (#12076825)
Clinton is in a good spot: "Unless Trump finds a way to counter Clinton’s racial persuasion, he will lose in November."

But he's confident that he will find aforementioned counter: "But as it turns out, Trump is probably the world’s greatest persuader. That’s why I predict he will win in a landslide"

Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by JohnMunsch on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:11PM (#12076491)
This isn't funny, this looks like mental illness. He needs some help.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by Mikhail_Edoshin on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @03:20AM (#12077327)
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by ljw1001 on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @12:25AM (#12076720)
Just, sad. There's nothing the pointy-haired boss could do to top Scott Adams in real life.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by WaltPurvis on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:10PM (#12076048)
Somebody has hacked Scott Adams' account (and by "account" I mean brain).
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by GFK_of_xmaspast on Tuesday July 12, 2016 @09:22AM (#12078738)
I guess those v-necked sweaters finally got to him.
Re:When Persuasion Turns Deadly by burnitdown on Monday July 11, 2016 @08:12PM (#12075788)
We need a reboot.