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Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by viraptor on Monday July 11, 2016 @06:58AM (#12070188)
This game is targeting young kids, so I'm not sure there will ever be any person-identifying interaction. A lot of online multiplayer games for kids don't have interactions beyond friending/favouriting someone. P-GO would be a prime candidate for 4chan type people and you can imagine how that would work together with location spoofing and global playground. I expect that Nintendo & Niantic know this (Ingress never solved the chat spamming issues - bots advertising resources for real money)
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by FungalRaincloud on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:31AM (#12070887)
If the game is targeting young kids, it's missing out on its primary audience. For one thing, young kids often do not have cellphones of their own. But for another, I was recently at a mall in a fairly major city, and I did not see one person under 18 playing, but near every Pokestop, and every lower spawn rate Pokemon, I found dozens of people. Pokemon games have had somewhat adult humor and themes for years, though the TV show is undoubtedly meant for a younger audience. Given that most of the people who really wanted this game are people who grew up on Pokemon and are now adults, not at least providing the option to have social interaction feels a bit wrong. It could be abused, sure, but I think throwing the necessary resources at keeping it from being abused, and punishing abusers would be worth keeping the game relevant to its current primary consumer.
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by jerf on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:44AM (#12070967)
I believe the point is that if the target audience includes kids, you get stuck with the restrictions that implies, whether or not they are the majority. Some of this is directly legally mandated, some of it is indirectly legally mandated by fear of lawsuit, and some of it is mandated by avoiding bad PR about any bad thing maybe possibly happening to some kid somewhere because of your app. By that, I don't mean to minimize concerns about the real possibility of things that could be bad, but to highlight the fact that the PR disaster doesn't even need a real bad thing to happen, just a semi-credible accusation made to the right media for any reason.

None of those three concerns can be fixed by any amount of "resource investment" that will satisfy anyone. It would just get them accused of censorship anyhow.

Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by snuxoll on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:55AM (#12071906)
Nintendo has always been very reluctant to include social features within games beyond a very difficult to use friend list, hell, they removed SwapNote from the 3DS because it young players were getting inappropriate notes sent to them. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't binned Miiverse some days, but they do an excellent job at moderating it.

I wouldn't expect Ingress-style open comms, but it would be nice to at least be able to message other players on a friend list.

Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by serge2k on Monday July 11, 2016 @05:58PM (#12075078)
It's what Nintendo does. They very much view their products as kids toys.
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by yoodenvranx on Monday July 11, 2016 @07:04AM (#12070223)
Yes, of course you are right about the safety of the kids.

I just wish there was an opt-in system where you can choose to share your ingame actions. If you don't share it you are invisible and you can't see other players, but if you are into Ingress-like gameplay you can just enable it.

About bots and cheating in Ingress: the biggest problem is that Niantic is a small company and they just don't have the manpower to sufficiently deal with the cheating. If they were Valve or Blizzard the situation would be a bit different.

Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by viraptor on Monday July 11, 2016 @08:00AM (#12070413)
I'm not sure I'm buying the small company angle. Sure, there are always going to be very creative people who work around complex rules, but that's not everyone. They could apply very basic checks and get rid of 99% of spam I've seen. Specifically, applying "you just moved more than 20km in one go and posted the same message including {bay/sell} => permaban".
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by johannes1234321 on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:11AM (#12070771)
For one moving 20km to Paste a message is easy and legal - using the Intel map. If you use the chat there it uses whatever location your focus is on. Also banning the "selling items" accounts does very little, they are cheap to recreate. The thing you have to control are farming bots.
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by viraptor on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:27AM (#12070853)
> moving 20km to Paste a message is easy and legal

Anything you can do in Ingress apart from actually hacking the players' phones, or sending threats is legal. It doesn't mean it shouldn't be filtered. At some point more than half the lines in the chat were bots trying to sell stuff. Killing either part works - production (farming) or selling.

Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by johannes1234321 on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:30AM (#12070882)
I'm not saying it's nice and that I support those sellers, but I'd try to kill the root ... and the chat experience always was limited with Ingress. In my local groups it was good enough however to get into contact with people to get then to hangouts or slack or whatever. With Pokemon this is really missing.
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by yoodenvranx on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:12AM (#12070777)
Perhaps it's just easier to leave it like the way it is? This way they can easily track spam-bots and the network behind it. If they start to implement more sophisticated by systems the spammers would also become more sophisticated.
Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by viraptor on Monday July 11, 2016 @09:32AM (#12070890)
At the point where you can't really talk to people anymore because your window is just flooded with spam, no. It may be easier for Nianic, but not for the players.

Besides, are you serious with that suggestion? Would you prefer email spam filtering didn't exist, otherwise it would get sophisticated? (easier to leave it that way viagra for sale now)

Re:Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession by tammer on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:23PM (#12076527)
AR done right inherently involves person-identifying interactions. All week almost everyone I know has made brand new real life friends while on their poké-travels. That's the draw here.