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Re:Why the Great Divide Is Growing Between Affordable and Ex... by jerf on Sunday July 10, 2016 @06:21PM (#12067541)
I think people who focus on "culture" need to carefully look at their lives and consider what it is costing them. Are you one of those people who really do go out two or three times a week to some sort of unique event that doesn't exist anywhere else? OK, sure, rock on. No sarcasm; I know you're out there.

But are you praising the "culture" of an area while your yearly "culture" itinerary is that you went to an art museum and a mid-list concert?

Are you really using the "culture" of your area, or is it just a rationalization to stay where you are?

I would consider it a successful outcome of this message if those of you who live in a "cultural" area resolve to take better advantage of it in the future. I'm not trying to say the "culture" stuff is useless. I'm just saying that people's words and actions seem divergent here, and the worst case outcome in terms of bang-for-the-buck is to pay to live in a high-culture area, and then not use it.

Re:Why the Great Divide Is Growing Between Affordable and Ex... by omegaham on Sunday July 10, 2016 @09:35PM (#12068317)
This is a really good point, especially since people who live in the suburbs are frequently a short train ride away from the exact same "culture" that the folks who live downtown get to experience. And if you're living in a sweet downtown loft but just sit in your room and watch Netflix all day long, why pay the premium? You can watch Netflix in the suburbs just as well.

I think that people obey fashion when it comes to living addresses just as much as they obey fashion when it comes to clothing, cars, and so on. No one likes to say that they living in a suburb of a Midwest city, even if that's actually the best decision they could make with their living circumstances.

Re:Why the Great Divide Is Growing Between Affordable and Ex... by stuxnet79 on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:11AM (#12071575)
> I think that people obey fashion when it comes to living addresses just as much as they obey fashion when it comes to clothing, cars, and so on. No one likes to say that they living in a suburb of a Midwest city, even if that's actually the best decision they could make with their living circumstances.

As somebody who recently moved to the city centre, from a 1hr away suburb I believe this is very much true. My move was motivated in part by the reactions I would get from people when I told them where I lived. I'm glad I moved downtown as I'm closer to work and all the city amenities are never more than a half-hour away, but occasionally I have mixed feelings about my decision as my disposable income has gone down considerably and I'm not putting away into my savings as much as I'd like to.

Re:Why the Great Divide Is Growing Between Affordable and Ex... by toasterlovin on Monday July 11, 2016 @12:27AM (#12068892)
Interesting, my wife and I have been asking ourselves these questions lately and we came to the conclusion that living in Portland (Oregon) is not worth the premium that it entails over living 30 minutes outside of Portland.

Yet, at the same time, I yearn to live inside the city.

I'm not fully thought out on this, but somehow I think it's ultimately a status thing. The cool people live in the city, so I want to live in the city.

Re:Why the Great Divide Is Growing Between Affordable and Ex... by brewdad on Monday July 11, 2016 @01:35PM (#12072735)
As one who, a decade ago, made the choice to live 10 mins from work in a Portland suburb rather than live in the city and commute 40-60 mins each way, we don't regret the decision at all.

Sure I would love to live in one of the leafy old neighborhoods in Portland, but we can get there in less than 30 minutes on the weekends and I don't stress over voluntarily driving into the city midweek once in a while. It would be nice to be a bit less car dependent, but having two cars in our family is more a choice of convenience than a necessity.