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Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by powertower on Friday July 08, 2016 @02:34PM (#12057705)
Another point is how do you factor out the possibility that blacks are significantly more likely to resist arrest and fight with the police officer in a manner that would justify a shooting such as grabbing at the officers' weapons, beating the cop with his own equipment, etc?

From the last time I checked into it, blacks where on the order of 10 times more likely to resist arrest than whites, and 4 times more likely to kill a cop.

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by josephd on Friday July 08, 2016 @02:45PM (#12057772)
And where did you get your "facts" from? Source?
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by powertower on Friday July 08, 2016 @03:03PM (#12057880)
These are not hidden facts. You can find them quite easily with simple queries...

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/African-Americans-cite...

"African Americans in San Francisco are cited for resisting arrest at a rate eight times greater than whites even when serious crimes are not involved, according to statistics drawn from court records."

Here is also a good overall source (but the author has a label on him).

http://www.colorofcrime.com/2016/03/the-color-of-crime-2016-...

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by pc86 on Friday July 08, 2016 @03:21PM (#12057994)
You can be arrested for resisting arrest, without being charged with any other crime. If the entire crux of this debate is a systemic racial bias on the part of law enforcement, it stands to reason that you shouldn't use statistics from law enforcement to argue against law enforcement's bias, doesn't it?
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by weberc2 on Sunday July 10, 2016 @03:17AM (#12064835)
The report explains why the law enforcement statistics are trustworthy, and specifically why arrest rates (especially for violent crimes) are likely to be particularly accurate. The report itself is very thorough.
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by josephd on Sunday July 10, 2016 @03:31AM (#12064864)
The statistics quoted above do not relate to this particular case. Overgeneralizing much?
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by weberc2 on Wednesday July 13, 2016 @05:31PM (#12089812)
I wasn't overgeneralizing anything. I was responding to "you shouldn't use statistics from law enforcement..."
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by naasking on Friday July 08, 2016 @03:24PM (#12058008)
Except if you dig deeper into those stats, you'll see that something like 5% of the same cops account for over 40% of "resisting arrest" charges, and 15% account for ~75% of those cases [1]. So most of it seems to come down to the police and how they approach making arrests.

[1] http://project.wnyc.org/resisting/

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by powertower on Friday July 08, 2016 @03:48PM (#12058163)
Does that take into account the type of police officer making the arrest (patrol, traffic, detective, narcotics, transit, desk/administrative, etc) and also the deployment and arrest location?

If the same cops patrol the same demographic and the same high crime areas it would reason that the same cops (and same type of specific category) will be making the majority of the arrests. Which will skew the mentioned statistic to them.

Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by naasking on Saturday July 09, 2016 @09:58AM (#12061292)
Now you're reaching. Read the accompanying story for more information. This is a widely recognizing problem.
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by micahbright on Friday July 08, 2016 @04:20PM (#12058360)
Alton Sterling was obviously resisting arrest - that's a fact.
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by josephd on Sunday July 10, 2016 @03:30AM (#12064862)
Where did you get your fictitious fact from? Where is your evidence? Just making things up as usual right?
Re:Bayesian Analysis of Racial Bias in Police Shootings in t... by micahbright on Sunday July 10, 2016 @09:58AM (#12065579)
It's on the video, Bro. Watch the video. Even the most liberal talking heads admit that he was resisting arrest, as you can see if you watch the video. BTW, if you watch the video, you will note that he is resisting arrest. It's a key factor that watching the video will show that he is resisting arrest. In conclusion, Alton Sterling was resisting arrest. So, don't forget, Alton Sterling was resisting arrest.