It means what it says it means? "fragile" code is code that can't be touched because touching it causes it to "break" - exhibit bugs that can't easily be fixed. "fluffy" code is bulky code: code that says in 1000 lines what could better be said in 10 lines. Cliff

What's your view on Graal? Is that making headway on de-fluffing and robustifying the code or does this not really tackle the issues you had in mind?

Thanks. "Fragile" made sense, "fluffy" was new to me.