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Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by exar0815 on Friday July 01, 2016 @11:56AM (#12017193)
I reckon the TSA-Checks are more of "Lets prevent a Terrorist from using a 500 ton plane with 250.000 litres of high explosive fuel moving at 700km/h against something else" than of "Lets prevent someone from killing the people onboard the plane".

Imagine someone ploughing shortly after the start into the Super Bowl. Thats what REAL security nightmares are made of.

Even though, even that cant be fully prevented. Best example would be someone like Andreas Lubitz.

Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by chris_va on Friday July 01, 2016 @12:27PM (#12017499)
Except whatever TSA would catch has mostly been solved with armored cockpit doors. Security money doesn't seem rationally invested.
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by douche on Friday July 01, 2016 @12:37PM (#12017601)
We might as well just consider the TSA a really terrible jobs program.
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by curried_haskell on Friday July 01, 2016 @01:40PM (#12018117)
An atrociously bad jobs program. Because while it gives a ton of people jobs, it bends over society and completely and thoroughly fucks the rest of us.
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by themartorana on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:15PM (#12018417)
Not to mention they look like some downright miserable jobs.
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by stcredzero on Friday July 01, 2016 @01:41PM (#12018128)
really terrible jobs program

That could be the basis of the worst reality TV show ever! Or one of President Trump's economic programs. Or both.

Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by Nav_Panel on Friday July 01, 2016 @01:17PM (#12017942)
> more of "Lets prevent a Terrorist from using a 500 ton plane with 250.000 litres of high explosive fuel moving at 700km/h against something else"

The most important safety measure against this became mandatory procedure after 9/11: locking the cockpit doors. If the terrorists can't control the plane, they can't use it as a projectile weapon. No amount of killing passengers will give them this kind of access.

Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by Navarr on Friday July 01, 2016 @01:47PM (#12018163)
Do we trust the pilots not to unlock the door in that situation? "Open the door or the passengers die!"?
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by sbov on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:09PM (#12018370)
Yes we do, because everyone will die anyways.

The reason why 9/11 was possible was because it had never happened. They could have added zero security measures, not even locking the cockpit door, and 9/11 still would probably not happen again. The reason is because before 9/11 the common wisdom was to let the hijackers do what they want. After 9/11 the common wisdom is the plane is going to be used to fly into a building.

But, locking the door is still a good common sense extra security measure.

Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by hga on Saturday July 02, 2016 @11:43AM (#12022900)
9/11 has to be the shortest duration of a terrorist gambit in history, it didn't even last the duration of the attack, for those on Flight 93 learned that the rules of the game had changed and responded accordingly.
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by Navarr on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:12PM (#12018391)
I mean yes, that's the _logic_. I guess what I'm asking is, is our expectation of pilots to follow that logic sound? Emotion over Logic, that sort of thing.
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by dawnerd on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:08PM (#12018354)
I guess we can take it a step further, whats to stop a pilot from turning bad?
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by shabble on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:18PM (#12018447)
Re:Does More Security at Airports Make Us Safer or Just Move... by rodovich on Friday July 01, 2016 @02:31PM (#12018559)
Not the TSA in that case, either.