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Re:How Amazon Triggered a Robot Arms Race by lmm on Thursday June 30, 2016 @04:30AM (#12007270)
> Or: "Doing soul-crushing work is better than having nothing to do" ?

Are we sure this isn't true? Are people who don't have to work (e.g. those on permanent disability in the US) more or less happy than comparable people in dead-end soulless jobs?

Re:How Amazon Triggered a Robot Arms Race by timv on Thursday June 30, 2016 @04:45AM (#12007323)
> Are we sure this isn't true?

I don't know of any studies, but I suspect there would be some.

In addition to the question of "how do we share income in a less-work world?", there is the question "how do we ensure that the are opportunities for everyone to contribute something meaningful to society?"

Ideally those questions would connect - we would use our increased product(ivity) to fund a wider range of human endeavours that might not have been considered "economically productive" in previous generations.

I don't know what that looks like, but I would hope it means more art and science, rather than more soul crushing, meaningless busy-work.

Re:How Amazon Triggered a Robot Arms Race by ethbro on Thursday June 30, 2016 @08:37AM (#12008058)
Or even, how many researchers are working at McDonald's because their families' circumstances didn't afford them other opportunities, including ability to further their education?

Maybe not many, but I feel pretty confident that number is greater than 0.

Re:How Amazon Triggered a Robot Arms Race by icebraining on Thursday June 30, 2016 @11:03AM (#12009008)
While it may be informative, one of the differences between UBI and simply expanding current welfare programs is cultural. Right now, being out of a job is considered shameful, and it's often isolating (since "everyone" else is working while you're not). Even in my holiday-friendlier (compared to the US) EU country, the fact that an unemployed person takes a few days from searching for work to go to the beach is met with scorn.

One of the hopes of UBI is that when everyone receives a salary just from being alive, and working earns you extra on top of that, whether one works become more of a choice (like living frugally) instead of a failure, and loneliness is reduced when unemployment isn't an evil to combat, and more people choose to do something else.

Re:How Amazon Triggered a Robot Arms Race by lmm on Thursday June 30, 2016 @11:12AM (#12009081)
I hope that too. But I don't think it's very likely. I guess we'll find out via the coming experiments.