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Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by andrepd on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @10:22PM (#12006201)
But what's your point? Ethereum is not decentralised because... there are social dynamics? What do you want to do about it? The protocol is decentralised, the technology is completely agnostic to anything but the will of the majority. Of course there will be social dynamics and people will discuss things and read things and coordinate and influence one another. That does not invalidate the whole thing.
Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by drewcrawford on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @11:34PM (#12006391)
Suppose for a minute the miners and the software developers disagreed strongly on some important decision. What do you think would happen?

* Would the software developers suck it up and follow the miners?

* Would the pool of software developers shrink because various developers do not find implementing the will of the miners to be an enjoyable hobby and/or job anymore?

* Would the miners hire new software developers to replace the ones that leave?

* Would there be a fork?

I don't know, but pretending that "the protocol is decentralised, the technology is completely agnostic to anything but the will of the majority" is ignoring the realpolitik of this kind of situation.

Saying that Ethereum implements the will of the majority is like saying American democracy implements the will of the majority. Sort of? But meanwhile there are a lot of empirical studies [0] demonstrating that the will of the people has little to no influence over American public policy. A democratic financial system is much more corruptible than a democratic political system.

[0] https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/fi...

Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by bduerst on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @11:23PM (#12006369)
I think the point they're making is that there's this common "Fallacy of the Census", which is like an appeal to popularity.

By only saying that the problems will sort themselves out because a census controls the network doesn't address the other factors that can be influencing the decisions of the majority. Essentially a census-controlled network isn't infallible (i.e. bitcoin block size debate).

Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by oillio on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @11:35PM (#12006393)
We have to assume Satoshi saw this problem and actually did something about it.

No one can come out and say, "We must change bitcoin. You should follow me because I created it."

By removing the founder role, Bitcoin is just that much more decentralized.

Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by aakilfernandes on Thursday June 30, 2016 @12:04AM (#12006483)
I like the Ethereum has a founder and leadership team. I just want them to use their influence wisely.
Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by soconfused1 on Thursday June 30, 2016 @03:57AM (#12007164)
It is better without it. Their leadership position is a bigger liability than it helps.
Re:Ethereum Protocol Developer Holds $115k Worth of DAO Tokens by oillio on Thursday June 30, 2016 @12:31AM (#12006578)
Yeah, recent events show the lack of leadership causes its own problems.