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Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by mplewis on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @06:15PM (#12005208)
Because without data, it's a circular argument.

"Women aren't interested in programming, so none of them go into programming professionally.

Why don't women go into programming professionally? Because they aren't interested."

Separate out whether women are interested from whether women are being forced out for other reasons (harassment, gender imbalance in the field, etc).

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by collyw on Thursday June 30, 2016 @08:32AM (#12008034)
They can't be forced out if they didn't start in the first place (because of lack of interest). When I was at University, there were way more guys studying engineering and CS. Were they forced out before they started?
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by teamfrizz on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @06:34PM (#12005333)
There is literally nothing circular about that. You're just saying the same thing twice.
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by pmarreck on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @08:58PM (#12005944)
Yes, there is. Allow me to rephrase it using Boolean logic to elucidate:

IF women aren't interested in programming, THEN none of them go into programming professionally.

IF women don't go into programming professionally, THEN they aren't interested."

I have 2 better questions to ask:

1) If fewer women than "the ideal" are interested in STEM, then why is that?

2) Why do we think a perfect 50/50 ratio across all fields is "the ideal," when "nature" might not deem it so? (note: this is NOT an "argument to nature")

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by therealdrag0 on Thursday July 07, 2016 @11:37AM (#12049983)
Why are there less male elementary school teachers? Are they being forced out due to gender prejudice or are they not interested?
Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by dragonwriter on Thursday July 07, 2016 @11:39AM (#12049996)
> Are they being forced out due to gender prejudice or are they not interested?

Positive (for males) gender prejudice in a wide array of higher-status, better-compensated jobs drawing men disproportionately elsewhere. Which is kind of a mix of both of your options.

Re:We built voice modulation to mask gender in technical int... by teamfrizz on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @06:36PM (#12005342)
On the other hand, saying a gender imbalance in the field is causing a gensee imbalance in the field....

Come on.