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Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by bbotond on Sunday June 26, 2016 @06:54AM (#11980257)
Could you give an example of how it is possible to take over an email account just by having an e-mail conversation with the owner?
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by Merad on Sunday June 26, 2016 @09:10AM (#11980607)
I imagine he/she is referring to how most "security questions" use info that we typically don't hesitate to give out in casual conversation, even with total strangers.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by bbotond on Sunday June 26, 2016 @10:28AM (#11980922)
Man I hate those security questions with a passion. They are super weakly protected backdoors into your account.

Here's how I deal with sites that require them:

site: "What is your first teacher's name?"

me: "'Fx|<n8K@W8#[_,[ (1p)jqPC"

The answer is a password equivalent, so I just treat it like a password.

Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by Tepix on Sunday June 26, 2016 @10:52AM (#11981032)
Doesn't work with United MileagePlus accounts, they only allow multiple choice answers!
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by dtemp on Sunday June 26, 2016 @12:56PM (#11981537)
Yep. I believe when I created my account, I picked ones that were definitely not real answers, ie. "What's your favorite sport?" answer "lawn darts".
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by bbotond on Sunday June 26, 2016 @01:19PM (#11981620)
Even if you picked a fake answer, that doesn't stop someone from brute-forcing it, which is made very easy by the limited range of possible options.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by majewsky on Monday June 27, 2016 @03:33AM (#11984666)
Any social engineers reading this? :)
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by sshanky on Sunday June 26, 2016 @12:56PM (#11981539)
Just give the wrong answer and keep track in your password tracker. At least social engineers can't figure that out.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by simbalion on Sunday June 26, 2016 @03:07PM (#11982142)
Contact their tech group and then contact their CEO and show them this article. :)
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by bbotond on Sunday June 26, 2016 @12:32PM (#11981454)
That's just appalling.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by Vexs on Monday June 27, 2016 @10:28AM (#11986333)
Someone pointed out that if you talk to a CS rep and try to say that off, they'd just hear gibberish- meaning if someone tried to get at your stuff, they would just have to spout off gibberish and the CS rep would probably accept it.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by jandrese on Monday June 27, 2016 @04:25PM (#11989191)
If you can do this, it seems weird you would ever need to contact support for help. If you can keep the security answers safe why can't you keep the original password safe in the same place?

Or is this for when the account is locked for some random reason?

Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by in_cahoots on Sunday June 26, 2016 @11:36AM (#11981205)
To me, the scarier idea is how many of these answers are now online. Mother's maiden name and other family names can be gotten from wedding notices or obituaries. For a teenager, the first job / school / car / concert are probably all available on Facebook. Even without the Internet as a backup, I could probably answer the security questions for 2-4 of my childhood friends.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by tim333 on Sunday June 26, 2016 @09:40AM (#11980716)
I think if I had a casual conversation and they started asking what was your pets name, where did you go to school etc I'd think it a bit odd. As an aside I usually have to write down the answers I've given in a word doc and look them up if I need to do that stuff as I can't remember which memorable place it was and the like.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by mattkrause on Sunday June 26, 2016 @03:07PM (#11982143)
Really? I'm sure it would seem odd if someone just ran down the list of questions, but I suspect you could easily maneuver the conversation so that a casual acquaintance answers one or two of them.

"Hey, how are you?"

"Pretty good. We're thinking about getting a dog so I went to the shelter this morning."

"Oh really?"

"It's tough to find one that's a good match though."

"Definitely"

"You ever have a dog?"

"Nah, wife's allergic. Had a snake as a kid though...called him Mr. Slithers."

Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by ryan-c on Sunday June 26, 2016 @03:21PM (#11982213)
You could build a chat bot that does that.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by boznz on Sunday June 26, 2016 @07:14AM (#11980307)
me: Hi Mate, what is your email password?

email recipient: Pasword123

me: thanks.

JOB DONE :-)

Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by bbotond on Sunday June 26, 2016 @07:23AM (#11980331)
Well, I was hoping for something at least a little bit more sophisticated.
Re:The “Cobra Effect” that is disabling paste on password fi... by Aelinsaar on Sunday June 26, 2016 @10:08AM (#11980829)
Nah... it's brute force all the way down. Scammers aren't brilliant men in dashing suits who swindle bankers, they're assholes who prey on the weakest. The second you do something that doesn't mark you as weak in some way, they don't want you anyway. It's the human equivalent of scanning large IP blocks for basic security holes.