Alan Kay on the misunderstanding of OOP (1998)

Re:Alan Kay on the misunderstanding of OOP (1998) by kabdib on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:09PM (#11970914)

Yup. We were looking at alternate runtimes in some OS / userland projects at Apple in the late 80s. You don't need vtables, and you can do better than static struct layout. You have to do some work at code load-time.

C++'s initial lack of a real string type and simple collection types pretty much doomed the language. (Instead they did iostreams? I've been using C++ since early CFront days, and have never used that misbegotten API).

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Re:Alan Kay on the misunderstanding of OOP (1998) by pjmlp on Friday June 24, 2016 @02:27PM (#11972200)

I guess I am one of the few people on the planet than enjoys using iostreams when I need to use C++. :)

Then again, I never needed to know all their little details.

Yeah implementing string, array and collection types was a kind of rite of passage for every C++ developer, back when the compilers were still trying to catch up with C++ARM.

I believe appealing to the C culture was one of the reasons those types weren't initially available, as C++ was already considered too bloated by the C community even without them.

Nowadays their three major compilers are written in C++.

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