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Re:AI, Apple and Google by addicted on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:31AM (#11966465)
If you leave the US, Google Maps is orders of magnitude better. If you commute anyway other than by car, Google Maps is orders of magnitude better.

So basically, Apple is slightly competitive if you are driving a car within the US, but even there it's probably a lot worse in the aggregate.

And Flyover is not even close to being as useful as Street View.

Re:AI, Apple and Google by eridius on Friday June 24, 2016 @02:15AM (#11967102)
I don't own a car, and Google Maps was absolute shit for MUNI here in SF. Specifically, Google Maps would pretend that there was a schedule and give you directions accordingly, but if you actually tried to follow the directions you'd get to the bus stop and find out that you need to wait 15 minutes for the next bus instead of the 1 minute Google Maps thought. At this point it's been several years since I've used Google Maps, because I eventually decided there was literally zero benefit to keeping it on my phone when I always ended up using Apple Maps for everything.
Re:AI, Apple and Google by 2sk21 on Friday June 24, 2016 @08:19AM (#11969148)
Very similar story in New York. CityMapper seems to work best in urban areas.
Re:AI, Apple and Google by koalaman on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:52AM (#11970751)
Google Maps transit directions are pretty amazing from my experience in NYC.

I grabbed a bus a couple of days ago because maps had a live update that it was just 1 minute away from me.

Re:AI, Apple and Google by cageface on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:57AM (#11966999)
This applies to Apple's stuff in general. If you live in the US and mostly interact with Americans it works well. If you live elsewhere or communicate with people outside the US then Maps, iMessage, and the stock Apple keyboard will find their way to your junk folder.
Re:AI, Apple and Google by ghshephard on Friday June 24, 2016 @03:09AM (#11967383)
That's not entirely true - even though 99% of the people I work with outside the US (Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brazil, Kolkata, Mexico) use Whatsapp, there is a tendency to start comms off with SMS before moving over to Whatsapp (no idea why). So - in the event (about 20% of the time, astonishingly enough - but it could be bias for the people I work with) the person talking to me has an iPhone we start off with iMessage. And of course, the other 80% of the time it's SMS coming through iMessage. So, iMessage has it's place initiating conversations. After that it's a [pick your regional chat app that isn't iMessage] .

I'm stunned at the number of people who use Apple Maps in Singapore. Google Maps is much better here - but about 50-70% of the people I know who have an iPhone just use the Map App that is installed on it. Kills me.

I don't know any english speakers with an iPhone who have changed out their keyboard - I've played with the others, but perhaps it's a foreign language thing?

Re:AI, Apple and Google by cageface on Friday June 24, 2016 @03:51AM (#11967630)
iPhone stock keyboard is horrible for foreign languages, and just flat out doesn't offer auto suggest for a lot of them. And since their third party keyboard API is still very buggy after two major iOS releases you really don't have any good alternatives.

My experience is mostly focused on SE Asia but nobody here sends an SMS if they can help it at all. They're fairly expensive, especially given that monthly 3g plans are as cheap as $3. Whatsapp, Facebook and Viber own messaging here.

Re:AI, Apple and Google by stephenr on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:01AM (#11970280)
I have literally never seen anyone using anything but the stock keyboard in iOS, and I live in Thailand, surrounded by locals who more often than not don't speak English.

Line is popular here, but only because it has stickers and iMessage doesn't.

Re:AI, Apple and Google by eridius on Friday June 24, 2016 @02:32PM (#11972230)
> iPhone stock keyboard is horrible for foreign languages, and just flat out doesn't offer auto suggest for a lot of them.

That's not true. Why do you say that? I've used the foreign keyboards for Spanish and for Korean, and both keyboards are excellent and offer good autocorrect. I've also never heard anyone complain about the foreign keyboards being bad before.