Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux debacle

Re:Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux... by rayiner on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @04:06PM (#11948999)

I mean, what's the alternative? It's almost certainly true that only a small fraction of the class cared about the "Other OS" functionality. Those that didn't suffered no damages when Sony removed the feature. Targeting the settlement proceeds to those people makes sense. One of the reasons you have those $2 coupon settlements is because you have overbroad classes where only a subset of members actually suffered harm, and the damages to the class are divvied up amongst class members who suffered no harm.

And $55 seems like a pretty good settlement for someone who used the Other OS functionality. Remember, that's a settlement value--the average loss of value of the PS3 to class members discounted by the probability of success at trial.

I understand the practical problems with providing the required proof, but this seems like a much more reasonable way of structuring a settlement than the potential alternatives.

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Re:Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux... by alogray on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @05:18PM (#11949487)

It doesn't seem unreasonable to suggest that a solution which results in the vast majority of true members of a class being unable to prove their membership is not really an improvement.

This seems like a ... sidegrade.

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Re:Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux... by rayiner on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @05:47PM (#11949688)

What's a better solution? Giving refunds to anybody who wants one, regardless of whether they cared about the "Other OS" functionality at all, would be totally unreasonable. Who wouldn't sign up to get their $500 back for a 10 year old system?

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Re:Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux... by icebraining on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @06:18PM (#11949896)

Giving refunds to anybody who wants one, regardless of whether they cared about the "Other OS" functionality at all, would be totally unreasonable.

Why? Maybe they didn't care at the time, but maybe they would later, or their kids would, or they would get a better deal when they resold it. Why should Sony get away with robbing their customers of advertised functionality with the excuse that they "didn't use it anyway"?

Maybe someday we'll see it with car manufacturers. "Your passenger door has been disabled. Please provide proof that you carry passengers with you to get a token reimbursement for the trouble."

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Re:Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux... by rayiner on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @07:17PM (#11950251)

Because the purpose of a civil suit is to make consumers whole for actual damages. This isn't about punishing Sony for misleading advertising. You measure the difference between what people paid, and what they would've paid without the removed functionality, summed up over the whole class. That's the damages to the class. And because very few people who bought a PS3 wouldn't have done so at the same price without that advertised feature, it's not a big number.

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Re:Sony agrees to pay millions to gamers to settle PS3 Linux... by icebraining on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @07:57PM (#11950482)

You're the lawyer, but how does Gore v. BMW of North America, Inc. fit into that? Even after the decision by the supreme courts, the plaintiff got $4k in actual damages and $50k in punitive damages, even after the SCOTUS found no evidence of bad faith. What makes this case different?

In fact, what's the point of punitive damages in general if not to punish the defendants in civil suits?

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