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Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by markbao on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @03:28PM (#11948704)
That's a great point. I wonder if there's an elegant/clean way to denote that something is vegan but not changed to be vegan. "Naturally fat-free" is good, and the sort of plant logo that some restaurants use at least avoid the word "vegan" which may help.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by kevb on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @12:20AM (#11951521)
Sometimes plant-based is used as a more socially acceptable word for "vegan". I think there's also a difference between titling a product "vegan" and specifying that it is vegan. "Vegan donuts" isn't as appealing to non-vegans as "Donuts (vegan)". Likewise I'd be discouraged to get something labeled "Gluten free cookies", but if I saw "Oatmeal chocolate chip cookies (gluten-free)" I wouldn't hold it against them.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by bdcs on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @01:54AM (#11951835)
On a related note: When I was vegan, I said I exclusively ate things made from plants. It was better received and understood. Also I would antagonize friends by giving them vegan pb&js, vegan pickles, vegan French fries, vegan Coke, etc.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by eru on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @02:00AM (#11951850)
No mushrooms or fermented products for you?

(I know you were just trying to give people a simplified model.)

Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by icebraining on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @04:02AM (#11952222)
Are you just giving random examples or is regular Coke not vegan?
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by adrianN on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @04:20AM (#11952285)
Regular coke is about as vegan as regular pickles.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by count on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:51PM (#11971920)
Interestingly, if it's 'throwback' coke with white/processed sugar in it, it's NOT vegan, as animal products (mostly bone/etc.) are used in the production of that sugar. HFCS modern coke is generally considered vegan.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by grogenaut on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @11:05AM (#11954484)
Pretty terrible analogy. I have no idea if pickles are vegan or not. I would assume they are but I'm not steeped in the vegan ethos and many things have surprised me in the past as being non-vegan.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by fucking_tragedy on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @12:32PM (#11955138)
Animal products are constantly snuck into processed, preserved and packaged foods. I'd find it funny, but wouldn't be surprised, to find that something derived from an animal found its way into a jar of pickles 'for flavor'.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by ashmud on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @11:26AM (#11954658)
Vegan french fries is the stand out here. Many commercially available ones are flavored and/or cooked with non-vegan ingredients.
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by AnkhMorporkian on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @06:18PM (#11949894)
> I wonder if there's an elegant/clean way to denote that something is vegan but not changed to be vegan.

Naturally free of animal products?

Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by mgkimsal on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @11:27PM (#11951367)
"naturally vegan" seems most appropriate, no?
Re:Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat by geon on Wednesday June 22, 2016 @02:56AM (#11952029)
"Low carbon"?