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Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by perseusprime11 on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @11:02AM (#11946109)
I have a different takeaway - Leaders from Google like Nikesh Arora, Marissa Mayer, Vic Gundotra don't succeed outside of Google because Google has a very unique culture and team environment, and success does not come from individual leaders at Google - it comes from teams.
Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by chubot on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @11:21AM (#11946295)
I wouldn't agree with that. Vic was not successful inside Google -- he was successful at getting promotions but not at delivering a successful product (or revenue for that matter.) He had a short tenure at Google, and I don't consider him part of the culture -- he was always more of an outsider.

Marissa had a lot of impact, but not as an executive. Contrary to popular belief, she never reported to the CEO. She was always 2 or more levels "down". She basically made the jump from non-senior-VP to CEO by changing jobs. She just didn't have that much experience at the CEO level, and that showed.

He had a bit of bad PR, but Tim Armstrong seems to have had some success as CEO of AOL, at least by the metric of investment return (I became an AOL shareholder and the stock did modestly well under his tenure).

I think if there's any criticism you can make, it's that Google's ad technology gushes revenue, and that may be taken for granted by executives until they don't have it at another job. Huge amounts of revenue solves a lot of problems.

Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by perseusprime11 on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @08:27PM (#11950660)
Vic did create a sticky product - so hard to get rid of Google Plus.
Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by w1ntermute on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @11:17AM (#11946265)
A counterexample is Sheryl Sandberg, who was Google's Vice President of Global Online Sales and Operations from 2001 to 2008.
Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by mapgrep on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @12:11PM (#11946776)
That is an excellent counterexample. She seems to have been instrumental at Facebook in building up revenue and transitioning to mobile.
Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by perseusprime11 on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @08:25PM (#11950647)
I like this counter example. I also think Sheryl knows that she can be the kingmaker and not the king to be successful. She is a driving force behind Mark Zuckerberg's success. Of all the folks mentioned, I put Sheryl in the rare breed category who has very high emotional intelligence.
Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by w1ntermute on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @09:07PM (#11950874)
> I also think Sheryl knows that she can be the kingmaker and not the king to be successful.

Another example of this is Uber's Ryan Graves. He was Uber's original CEO, but was replaced in December 2010 by Travis Kalanick[0]. At that point, Uber's success was by no means ensured, but Graves stuck with it, and now he's a billionaire anyway[1].

0: https://techcrunch.com/2010/12/22/uber-ceo-super-pumped-abou...

1: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenhuet/2015/03/02/uber-billio...

Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by robk on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @11:31AM (#11946415)
Nikesh was a very different kind of leader inside Google and many would disagree about him being a Google culture fit very well. Sales at Google is run almost arms length from core eng
Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by iwontreddit on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @01:37PM (#11947620)
Or they aren't any smarter or dumber than anyone else but just got lucky to hitch a ride on a rocket. Success is more about being at the right place at the right time rather then being the right person.

It wasn't nikesh, marissa, vic, larry or sergey that was important. It was the idea of google.

> - it comes from teams.

Even if you moved the entire team to softbank, it's not going to change much. Google was the right idea at the right time. Has nothing to do with "culture,people,etc". Lots of tech companies have the culture of google.

In other words, somebody has to be google, somebody has to be facebook, apple, microsoft, etc. We just think that some people have some magical secret or some magical talent. But it's just a simple matter of somebody having to win and everyone else having to lose.

Re:SoftBank President Nikesh Arora to Step Down by perseusprime11 on Tuesday June 21, 2016 @08:28PM (#11950671)
Good point.

> Success is more about being at the right place at the right time rather then being the right person.