Re:As Tech Evaporates Jobs, “The Tipping Point Will Be Drive...
by hamilyon2 on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @02:47AM
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That may be question of national security i.e. ability to defend against adversary.
Let's imagine 30 years from now. World is not yet united and peaceful place.
Nation focusing on social nenefits, leisure time, innovation and freedom could be as economically and technically advanced as other nation focusing solely on full employment.
But they will be substantially different when facing difficult realities of war: those benefits as well may be cut and those people should go to factories, computers, fields, whatever occupation current war needs.
How do you explain a whole generation of people that their allowance will not be paid? How do you tell them that their occupation will be unpleasant? How do you train millions of people discipline, relevant skills, command-and-control?
No major nation wants to lose next war, so we are locked in full employment race.
(sorry for bad english)
Re:As Tech Evaporates Jobs, “The Tipping Point Will Be Drive...
by dietrichepp on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @03:00AM
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So you're saying that people should do busywork now, just in case we need to go to the factories to support tomorrow's war? Forgetting the fact that the factories are already automated, and going to war won't un-automate them, war is ever less likely and smaller in scale as global prosperity increases.
Re:As Tech Evaporates Jobs, “The Tipping Point Will Be Drive...
by rblatz on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @04:02AM
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Which world do you live in? It seems like we are slowly inching closer and closer to world war 3.
Re:As Tech Evaporates Jobs, “The Tipping Point Will Be Drive...
by majewsky on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @05:17AM
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Americans are more and more averse to going to war, which is why the USA is sending drones instead of people now. The situation is similar in Europe. Not so much in the other parts of the world, though.
A reasonable explanation could be proximity: When the war takes place in their own country, people are more likely to pick up guns instead of waiting for drones to be sent.
Re:As Tech Evaporates Jobs, “The Tipping Point Will Be Drive...
by dietrichepp on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @05:26AM
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I'm guessing you're young? Seems like we were a lot closer to WW3 in the 1980s, and it's only been getting less likely since then. The US hasn't had a draft since 1973.
But the constant drone of "create jobs" at every political debate? The yardsticking of every public policy measure against how many "jobs" it will "create" or "destroy"? A central bank with a mandate not to simply implement fair and simple currency regulations, but to actually manipulate the money supply so as to "create jobs"?
This is not just a discussion; it's an obsession. And I posit that it's as much about a moralistic work ethic (and a bunch of other things) as it is about any sound economic theory.
We need to move on to new ideas about automation, economics, and sustainability.