Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World

Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by bdavisx on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @08:14AM (#11901480)

I think the real problem with discussing guns in the U.S. is that the issue is muddled.

There's one problem, that causes two completely separate issues:

  The fact that you can *very easily* get a gun when you shouldn't be able to.

This allows gang members, terrorists and other criminals to obtain guns. And it also allows mentally ill people to be able to obtain guns. In the Orlando case, I guess both of these apply, and neither, since he was licensed.

Unlike many liberals (and I'm super liberal), I don't have any issue with most people being able to get a gun. But I don't think that having to wait a while (a few days or a few weeks) should be an issue, but it is with the NRA and other gun advocates.

And I think that tracking a gun from initial manufacture thru the end of it's life should be something that we do as well.

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by pigpaws on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @09:23AM (#11901840)

does that mean you're also agreeable to online tracking, maybe a 'license' to get online?

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by unclenoriega on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @10:04AM (#11902067)

While you wait for a response, maybe you can expand on why you think it would mean that.

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by pigpaws on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @12:22PM (#11903092)

If one is willing to have their 2nd amendment traced, it is only assumable (and a matter of time until) the 1st amendment is traceable.

they're called 'slippery slopes' for a reason.

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by gingerrr on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @12:53PM (#11903332)

Yeah, and the "slippery slope" argument is called a fallacy for a reason.

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by pigpaws on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @09:57AM (#11909333)

history shows otherwise, even if 'philosophy' disagrees.

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by bdavisx on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @09:20PM (#11906602)

The 1st amendment doesn't say anything about being "well regulated."

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Re:Compare Gun Death Rates: The U.S. Is in a Different World by pigpaws on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @09:58AM (#11909339)

no, but the Supreme Court has already put limits on it. What if they start defining 'hate speech' as they have in Europe?

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