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Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by Animats on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:42PM (#11898685)
Oh, and Amazon's recommendation engine shows "Frequently bought together - Amazing Liquid Fire and Red Hot Devil Lye." If you mix those two, you are going to have a really bad day.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by djsumdog on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:49PM (#11898720)
And everyone who purchased those two items together also get their very own personalized FBI terrorist watch list.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by maxerickson on Monday June 13, 2016 @09:41PM (#11899185)
Nah, regional drug enforcement. The internet reveals that they are both ingredients used for cooking meth.

And now I wonder how much attention Googling "meth recipe" is worth. This page discusses it from a law enforcement perspective (or so):

http://www.aristatek.com/newsletter/0511November/TechSpeak.a...

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by jrockway on Monday June 13, 2016 @09:49PM (#11899210)
The government pipes a key ingredient for making meth directly into my home: water.

The real casualty of the meth war was Sudafed. It is the only thing that helps my nasal congestion, and I feel like a hardened criminal every time I beg the pharmacist for my 10 day supply. Randall Munroe was right in wishing he had a way to turn meth into cold medicine.

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by GFK_of_xmaspast on Monday June 13, 2016 @10:39PM (#11899407)
In my experience the act of purchasing sudafed has simplified over the last few years and all I have to do anymore is show ID (as opposed to the pharmacist filling out a big log book and counter signing).

That aside, Flonase is my drug of choice for that stuff now and in a world without one or the other I know which I'll choose.

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by MyDogHasFleas on Monday June 13, 2016 @11:23PM (#11899531)
It's more than just showing an ID. [See here](http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/InformationbyDrugClass/u...) item 17.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by GFK_of_xmaspast on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @06:48AM (#11901068)
I haven't had to fill out a log book in years and years. Multiple pharmacies, multiple states.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by djsumdog on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @01:13PM (#11910576)
That's one thing I hated about Australia/NZ. Real Pseudoephedrine requires a prescription. I was surprised in Singapore when I could buy it with just showing my ID like in the US.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by Animats on Monday June 13, 2016 @09:56PM (#11899247)
Perhaps those products are marketed primarily to meth labs. As drain cleaners, neither pure sulfuric acid nor pure sodium hydroxide is a good choice. There are more effective products that are less hazardous to both humans and plumbing.[1]

[1] http://www.consumerreports.org/content/dam/cro/news_articles...

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by wtbob on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @08:53AM (#11901665)
> Perhaps those products are marketed primarily to meth labs. As drain cleaners, neither pure sulfuric acid nor pure sodium hydroxide is a good choice.

Pure sodium hydroxide is also used in soap-making, which is both fun and legal. I really hope it doesn't become any more difficult than it is to get ahold of it.

I don't think people should do meth, but I do wonder if the total social costs of making it illegal (crime, meth labs near and in residences, incarceration &c.) outweigh the costs of allowing it to be legal.

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by maxerickson on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @12:08PM (#11902955)
Is the stuff sold as drain cleaner not suitable for making soap?

My local big box hardware store sells 100% lye drain cleaner for $4 a pound (it's 100% sodium hydroxide as crystals or powder). I haven't tried buying any, but I doubt a couple pounds would be an issue.

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by wtbob on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @08:48AM (#11908957)
> Is the stuff sold as drain cleaner not suitable for making soap?

The 100% lye stuff is, but as the former poster indicated it isn't really the most effective drain cleaner — and there have been moves to make it illegal, because of its use in drug production.

> I haven't tried buying any, but I doubt a couple pounds would be an issue.

I have to give my phone number whenever I buy it. Galling: I'm a free citizen of a free republic, and should be able to purchase chemicals without being tracked.

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by mmagin on Monday June 13, 2016 @10:33PM (#11899373)
Sodium hydroxide is a lot cheaper than the various premixed stuff. And you can also make soap with it.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by serge2k on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:52PM (#11898732)
Wouldn't you just get a salt and water?
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by Johnny555 on Monday June 13, 2016 @07:53PM (#11898747)
And an energetic exothermic reaction.
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by ChuckMcM on Monday June 13, 2016 @08:09PM (#11898814)
What he said, a very energetic exothermic reaction, which if something was trying to contain it, would probably result in rapid unplanned disassembly (RUD).
Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by andyjdavis on Monday June 13, 2016 @08:48PM (#11898991)
>rapid unplanned disassembly (RUD)

lol. Awesome acronym for an unpleasant event.

Re:FAA Slaps Amazon with $350k Penalty for Shipping Violation by serge2k on Monday June 13, 2016 @08:10PM (#11898821)
ah, right.