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Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by filereaper on Monday June 13, 2016 @03:36PM (#11896751)
Anecdotal, but I've found Siri to be quite helpful with Car Play, along with Google's equivalent (can't remember its marketing name) in Android Auto.

Just drive along, push to issue command, and "Siri navigate me to <address> in <city>" and boom. This might have existed in luxury cars for years, but its coming down into the mainstream ~$30k cars recently and I'm loving it.

I'm thankful for technologies like Siri in the context of driving at least.

Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by newjersey on Monday June 13, 2016 @03:41PM (#11896787)
Anecdotal counterpoint: Siri is horrible at recognizing my speech if it is anything that it doesn't expect. I can ask it to define a word all day long but I doubt it will get any better. It just keeps giving me the same (incorrect) response repeatedly. Google Now does a very good job at recognizing voice including words I may mispronounce when I say "define X"

I can sort of imagine why. Google "knows" me better. What is awesome/scary is that I have tried this on other people's iPhones and Google Now still does better than Siri.

Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by punjabisingh on Monday June 13, 2016 @03:48PM (#11896856)
Google Now's dictation is so much better for people with accents.

My family's English pronunciations have a very strong Indian/Punjabi accent. For people with accents, Siri works very unreliably to the point that we've given up on it, whereas Google Now "magically" works all the time.

Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by filereaper on Monday June 13, 2016 @03:47PM (#11896849)
Indeed, I have noticed the gap in comprehension between Siri and Google Now. I'd attribute that to Google having a much deeper expertise of ML than Apple. I wouldn't entirely discount things like Siri though, they'll get better with time.
Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by skygazer on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:02PM (#11897608)
Google built their own voice recognition using neural nets. Apple licenses theirs from Nuance, the makers of Dragon Naturally Speaking. I don't know what technology Nuance uses now, but historically it was Markov Models, I believe. The founder of what-would-become Nuance, and early pioneer in voice recognition, Ray Kurzweil, was hired a few years ago by Google to "to bring natural language understanding to Google."
Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by marvin on Monday June 13, 2016 @05:25PM (#11897799)
I speak a weird hybrid of four Norwegian accents, and Siri + iOS dictation is indispensable in both using my phone faster, and operating it when my hands are occupied with other things. So there's clearly a variety of experiences here.
Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by tyfon on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @06:48AM (#11901064)
English with Norwegian accent is generally very clear and pronounced though. I never have problem with google now either, and I use it several times a day. As you I speak a Norwegian that is called "lett blanding" or "light blend" in English, composed of western, southern and eastern dialects :)

Well there are some problems.. If I have it set to English, I can't really get it to grasp Norwegian names for streets etc. I wish it could have a mix of some sort.

Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by marvin on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:40PM (#11925409)
I talk to Siri in Norwegian, actually =)
Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by rahoulb on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @11:35AM (#11902679)
One thing that always worked for me on iOS but never on Android was triggering Siri from a standard bluetooth head unit.

I could hit the "call" button and it would launch Siri and I could say "message my wife" or a plain "read me my messages".

Despite loads of mucking about, installing and buying 3rd-party utilities, I could never get Android to do the same (and Google Now would never "read me my texts" and often "text my wife" would say it had sent but would never arrive).

I'm sure it's easy with Android Auto, but I have old cars and I'm not shelling out for a head unit that costs almost as much as the car itself.

Re:Apple announces iOS 10 by bduerst on Tuesday June 14, 2016 @12:13AM (#11899725)
>along with Google's equivalent (can't remember its marketing name)

This is kind of hilarious, because there have been complaints that Google didn't name it's voice recognition assistant (it's just "Ok Google").