How They Got Their Guns

Re:How They Got Their Guns by tremon on Monday June 13, 2016 @10:14AM (#11894021)

But if they're already doing domestic surveillance and still can't prevent this, then they're incompetent. As it is now, the NSA isn't even being discussed because they're legally not allowed to snoop on domestic terrorists. Allowing the practice opens them up to criticism when events like these continue happening.

Right now, they have the best of both worlds: all access and no responsibilities.

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Re:How They Got Their Guns by pigpaws on Monday June 13, 2016 @10:24AM (#11894118)

/seems a bit off topic, but here goes:

Part of that is that 'domestic terrorist' has not been defined. As we can see with the IRS, whether you agree or disagree, the fact is that they specifically targeted companies with names thought to be associated with a specific political bent. They had 'responsibilities' and 'oversight', but the people in charge of that either didn't care or purposefully broke the 'rules'. Does 'the State' then designate those 503c orgs as 'terrorists'?

If you start defining terrorism the same way the State department does: "the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims."

then that opens the flood gates of every agency who has armed agents to be defined as a 'terrorist' organization. Why does the EPA/IRS/Dept. of Ed have armed agents? Hell, try not paying your property tax and see what the local Sheriff's dept. does... This country is based on taxation by threat of violence...

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