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Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by qudat on Friday June 10, 2016 @06:26PM (#11880616)
40 minute games where you are heavily penalized for leaving even when someone else leaves. It's a team based game where you can see your entire team on a map. Ranked matches are competely dependent on teamwork. It seems obvious to me why there is so much vitriol in league.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by onetwotree on Friday June 10, 2016 @07:12PM (#11880895)
Dota2 has fixed this by removing the penalty for leaving once another player has abandoned. It's a simple fix and I'm surprised LoL hasn't done it.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by arohner on Friday June 10, 2016 @07:26PM (#11880970)
That only applies to unranked games. Ranked games you'll still lose MMR if a teammate abandons.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by yarou on Friday June 10, 2016 @08:43PM (#11881330)
That depends, there are two distinct states.

One is triggered if there are network connectivity issues, in which case the game isn't scored for anybody. This is to get around the MMR abusers that would queue bots to leave on the other team so they would get a quick win.

The second state is usually triggered if a player has left after first blood. Even then, there are compensatory mechanisms. You lose less MMR than you would normally, and if a player leaves, your team will receive unreliable gold at a faster rate.

Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by gozur88 on Friday June 10, 2016 @09:28PM (#11881509)
>This is to get around the MMR abusers that would queue bots to leave on the other team so they would get a quick win.

Why would anyone do something like that? Every time you played a legit game you'd lose.

Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by yarou on Friday June 10, 2016 @09:37PM (#11881543)
In order to sell a high MMR account. This explains why there is massive amounts of MMR inflation across regions.

Prior to ranked matchmaking, the top 1% was typically around 4.2k hidden MMR. After ranked was introduced, it became closer to 5k. Now you have close to 8-9k MMR, because people are buying 5-6k accounts, and lose until they reach their true skill level (usually somewhere between 2-3k).

The account buyer essentially feeds 3000 MMR to their opponents, which is why a 5k player back when ranked was introduced is now an 8k player.

Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by gozur88 on Friday June 10, 2016 @09:53PM (#11881594)
I still don't get it. Why would you buy an account with an MMR that virtually guaranteed you'd lose nearly every game? Are masochists more numerous than I'd imagined?
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by yarou on Friday June 10, 2016 @10:31PM (#11881709)
I imagine it's a form of Dunning-Kruger: account buyers feel that they are more skilled than the rating they received after calibration.

There are also those who legitimately enjoy griefing dota: their account is probably so deep into low priority stacks that it is effectively banned. Or perhaps they are shadow banned into the bot/multi box pool. So they buy a new account to try and ruin games at high MMR.

Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by StavrosK on Saturday June 11, 2016 @03:18AM (#11882463)
How did they do that? You can't choose whom you queue with.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by ryanlol on Saturday June 11, 2016 @04:41AM (#11882692)
Queue lots of bots at the same time, the ones that pop simultaneously will be in the same game.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by yarou on Wednesday June 15, 2016 @07:55PM (#11913031)
Exactly. Also, queue on a low population region at say 4 am when many players from said region are not on.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by chc on Friday June 10, 2016 @07:29PM (#11880984)
Riot are testing it for the case where somebody leaves early on. They don't want to allow it for mid-game abandons for fear that it will encourage players to gang up on their team's weakest link and flame him into abandoning so the rest of the team can leave without consequence.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by onetwotree on Saturday June 11, 2016 @04:44PM (#11885233)
This is a strategy you see in unranked dota pubs, but it doesn't work against a team that's competent enough to rotate the weakest player out, pile into their lane, or use them as bait for counter ganks.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by edem on Friday June 10, 2016 @09:09PM (#11881427)
There is no point in this since there is a surrender option.
Re:Riot uses League of Legends chatlogs to weed out toxic em... by dmoy on Friday June 10, 2016 @10:16PM (#11881661)
To which trolls will never vote yes on, and since you need a supermajority it doesn't happen as early as it should a lot of the time.