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Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by partiallypro on Friday June 10, 2016 @01:27PM (#11878076)
I'm a free speech absolutist, but what precedent does this set that's new? The person that leaked the "Fappening" items is also being prosecuted, why should a media publication like Gawker not be held accountable? No one really seemed to have -big- issue with this until Thiel was in the picture.
Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by jshevek on Friday June 10, 2016 @01:45PM (#11878309)
Yes, exactly.

After Thiel was revealed as the financier, some in the media saw an opportunity to re-caste the narrative in a way that they knew would appeal to our hatred of the rich and our fear for their abuse of power. The story became all about Thiel the alleged bully, the abuser of power, his petty grudge, etc etc. It was effective manipulation, just look at the comments here from those who think this 'sets a bad precedent'.

Never mind that Thiel's side was right and Gawker was wrong. Never mind that the mechanism employed to achieve justice here is basically the same mechanism that the ACLU uses.

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by deong on Friday June 10, 2016 @02:32PM (#11878745)
Firstly, the ACLU is open about it.

There's no way to know, but my guess is that had Thiel stepped up in public a few years ago and said, "Gawker is a terrible gossip rag that needs to be taught a lesson -- contact me if they've wronged you too, and I'll help you mount a case", people would be less angry at him.

People don't like the idea that a shadowy cabal can run things behind the scenes without any public scrutiny.

Secondly, the ACLU does not generally appear vindictive. The ACLU looks to fund cases with a motive that people generally understand to be making things better for American society. Thiel may claim that removing Gawker from the face of the earth is a public service, but given the obvious history, that seems laughable. He appears vindictive, not altruistic.

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by partiallypro on Friday June 10, 2016 @03:52PM (#11879480)
The ACLU is only public about it because part of their mission is to raise awareness. They have PR blitzes to publicize new cases they are taking on.
Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by smt88 on Friday June 10, 2016 @01:30PM (#11878119)
> No one really seemed to have -big- issue with this until Thiel was in the picture

That's because, with Thiel's involvement, the case became about something else: a personal vendetta. Regardless of the outcome, many of us are dismayed that Thiel was able to weaponize the justice system using huge amounts of money.

> why should a media publication like Gawker not be held accountable?

The tape of Hogan had racist comments on it, which are arguably in the public interest (since Hogan is a business(man) and consumers should be able to know about his character). It was stupid and possibly illegal of them to include the sex part of the tape, but was it worth $100M? Did that part of the tape harm Hogan at all?

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by nickff on Friday June 10, 2016 @01:53PM (#11878383)
There is a name for weaponization of the legal system, it is called 'lawfare', and it has been going on a long time. This was a legitimate case, not some strange and arcane proceeding based on a hitherto unknown statute; it may be the case that Thiel was 'woken up' by the post about him, and has since been keeping a lookout to stop Denton's greed from harming more people. Denton isn't running a charity.

If Denton had published the tape 'for the public', he wouldn't have included the sex bit; we all know that this was classic Gawker clickbait. Denton obviously only cares about 'disclosure' when it gives him ammunition to use against his opponents, especially when he can profit off of it.

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by whatok on Friday June 10, 2016 @01:58PM (#11878426)
> If Denton had published the tape 'for the public', he wouldn't have included the sex bit; we all know that this was classic Gawker clickbait. Denton obviously only cares about 'disclosure' when it gives him ammunition to use against his opponents, especially when he can profit off of it.

100% agree with this. Publication of the entire tape was not necessary. What would be the difference between publishing that a tape existed or a few screenshots vs the entire tape? Clicks.

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by partiallypro on Friday June 10, 2016 @03:51PM (#11879468)
> The tape of Hogan had racist comments on it, which are arguably in the public interest

Absolute nonsense. So if, let's say, Jennifer Lawrence had a tattoo on her butt that said something derogatory, suddenly leaking her nude photos is ok? I mean, she is a public figure and kids look up to her! What she does in the privacy of her home is absolutely public information, because of this. If they -really- only were doing it for the public's benefit they would have just had that snippet, with the audio; but they didn't, they published the full tape.

> That's because, with Thiel's involvement, the case became about something else: a personal vendetta.

Do you think Hogan suing or anyone else suing for this type of thing is -not- a vendetta? Hogan was already wealthy, he didn't need Gawker's cash. He did it to take them down. Are we to not allow him to sue because that's technically a "vendetta?"

I mean, Gawker did a similar thing to Thiel by outing him to the public. That case would never hold up; so instead of going down that path he waited in the wings; I don't see how this is different than something like a class action where outside money is funding a suit.

People need to get the idea out of their head that "outside money" is inherently bad. The ACLU, FIRE, and tons of civil liberty organizations are "outside money." Be careful what you wish for.

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by danielweber on Friday June 10, 2016 @02:37PM (#11878793)
If Thiel was funding losing suit after losing suit after losing suit, this would be relevant.

But he funded a winning suit. He wasn't pestering them with this suit. It was a 100% legitimate suit. He funded a correct result.

You want scary? Even Hulk Hogan doesn't have enough money to fund a correct lawsuit.

Re:Gawker Files for Bankruptcy, Will Be Put Up for Auction by GunboatDiplomat on Friday June 10, 2016 @01:32PM (#11878140)
Because the fourth estate sees this as a threat to their interests.