Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by comboy on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @11:00AM
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Couldn't Google offer defense in such cases for its users? Every case is the same so it shouldn't even be that expensive (I guess, IANAL), and it would discourage future cases because the troll would know he will have to fight against Google.
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Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by rhino369 on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @11:54AM
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Yea they could in multiple ways. They could sue to the troll for a declaratory judgement of invalidity and non infringement. Or they just indemnify their app stor developers for any patent liability caused by using their product.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by ikeboy on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @12:19PM
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>Or they just indemnify their app stor developers for any patent liability caused by using their product.
What about actual patent violations?
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by matthewmacleod on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @02:49PM
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IANAL, but I don't think there's a reason they couldn't indemnify against patent lawsuits regarding the distribution of applications through their services, while not indemnifying for patent violations in the applications themselves.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by anthonybsd on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @03:23PM
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>their product
"Their" in this case being "Google Play" product and any liability arising from the use of thereof.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by tommoor on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @11:57AM
(#11863107)
Good guy Google should definitely be stepping in here
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by droidist2 on Thursday June 09, 2016 @09:16PM
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I won't hold my breath
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by Shivetya on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @02:04PM
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I guess I am stupid, why isn't Google the defendant, other than the fact they have too much money. This is like being sued for shopping at the wrong store.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by developer2 on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @02:36PM
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The problem is that the "patent" (fucking loose term of the word for something that should never have been allowed to be filed) is about the use of the code in question. It's not the App Store that is supposedly infringing, it's the use of the App Store. What a joke.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by brandonm64 on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @02:57PM
(#11864657)
Doesn't Google use the Play Store to distribute their own apps like Sheets, Docs, Drive etc.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by developer2 on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @03:23PM
(#11864865)
Right. But the patent troll doesn't want to go after a large corporation with the resources to defend. Much easier to go after the thousands of individuals / small businesses that can't fund a 5 year court battle.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by angry-hacker on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @03:22PM
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Yes but they are not going to sue Google, that is the problem
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by MichaelGG on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @02:37PM
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As I understand, patent liability doesn't stop at any point. So your customers can be sued for using your infringing ptoduct. This has the effect of letting patent owners choose who to go after.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by vermontdevil on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @02:35PM
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Because it's easier to make money going after small business knowing these business can't afford a lawsuit.
One of these troll companies made $30 million a year doing this and they are even listed on the stock exchange!!
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by SZJX on Friday June 10, 2016 @10:21AM
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Which listed company is that though
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by tedmiston on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @04:10PM
(#11865259)
He answers this in the FAQ at the end of the video: Because Google is big enough that it could defend itself.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by derekp7 on Thursday June 09, 2016 @06:19PM
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Yes, that is part of the patent law. 35.271.a:
... whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention ... infringes the patent.
That is why that one copier patent troll (can't remember the specifics) files suit against businesses that purchase copier, but not the manufactures themselves.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by oddevan on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @11:11AM
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I do feel like when a similar thing happened with the iOS App Store (app devs sued for using in-app purchases), Apple tried to insert itself into the case saying that all the technology used was theirs.
Re:Being sued, in East Texas, for using the Google Play Stor...
by rwhitman on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @11:05PM
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Or at least they could join with some other companies to pool money towards a software trade association with real teeth that we can rely on to represent our industry's interests when it's under attack like this.
It's appalling how limp this business is when it comes to demonstrating political muscle