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Re:Firefox 48 Beta, Release, and E10S by dragonwriter on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @01:19PM (#11855951)
> Chrome is at best visible source – Google controls development, not the community

Chromium is open source, Chrome is open core. Chromium may also be cathedral (rather thean bazaar) development model, but that's only distantly related to open source or not (bazaar is facilitated by open source, but not required for it.)

Re:Firefox 48 Beta, Release, and E10S by kuschku on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @02:22PM (#11856523)
Eh, it’s not really related.

Google even openly discourages forks, or any contribution that doesn’t fit their ideals.

It’s only truly open if development is controlled by a democratic community, or if it’s easily possible to be forked and competed with.

Which isn’t the case.

And for users open development is a lot more important than open source: Being able to get their own changes into the browser, ensuring the browser is made by the users, for the users.

Re:Firefox 48 Beta, Release, and E10S by kelnos on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @12:52AM (#11860109)
Google even openly discourages forks...

Google may discourage forks, but there's nothing they can do to prevent one, and forking Chromium is no more difficult than forking any other project its size.

... or any contribution that doesn’t fit their ideals.

That's one of an OSS project maintainer's more important jobs. I used to maintain some decent-sized open source projects, and part of my job was to say "no" when someone wanted to add something I didn't think belonged (for whatever reason).

Re:Firefox 48 Beta, Release, and E10S by kuschku on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @07:54AM (#11861559)
Forking Chrome is useless, Google can just take a bunch more of engineers to work on it, add some features to chrome, and extinguish your project again.

Forking Chrome would be like fighting against Embrace, Extend, Extinguish after you’ve already lost (which we have with Chrome, compared to what KHTML used to be like)

Re:Firefox 48 Beta, Release, and E10S by kelnos on Sunday June 12, 2016 @03:01PM (#11889683)
That's true of any large open source project, whether heavily backed by a company or not. You need both users and developers to make a fork successful.

Regardless, though, there's nothing that says the hypothetical developers of a Chromium fork couldn't devote some time to merging reasonable fixes & new features from upstream.