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Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by AnthonyMouse on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:50PM (#11850705)
> The city created a three-way stop before the curve that has slowed traffic on the street and seems to have reduced non-local traffic.

How is this not the same NIMBY entitlement? "There are too many people using this public road, let's make it more arduous to use and let someone else suffer the traffic." That doesn't actually reduce traffic, it only redirects it. And if the people now receiving the traffic respond in kind to restore the original balance all you've done is put up more stop signs, which cause vehicles to stop and then have to accelerate again, increasing air pollution and climate change and redirecting more money to terrorism-supporting countries.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by FroshKiller on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @09:53AM (#11854490)
It's pretty simple. NIMBY stands for "not in my backyard." The NIMBY bit of the complaint is "I don't want people driving down my street."

My concern about the traffic isn't NIMBY in nature because I don't care whether anyone drives down the street as long as they do it safely. So rather than "not in my backyard," it's "in my backyard is fine as long as you do it safely."

It isn't arduous to use the road, any redirected traffic is going back to the main streets meant to handle it, and jet fuel can and did melt those steel beams--not the three-way stop on my street.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @10:02AM (#11854548)
Maybe the main streets were 'meant to handle it', but sometimes they don't. To blithely redirect everybody back there is the NIMBY part? The part where its just assumed that the public doesn't need to inconvenience me; isn't somebody taking care of all that stuff?
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by corndoge on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:55PM (#11850743)
That escalation from stop signs to funding terrorists was entertaining to say the least
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by AnthonyMouse on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:15PM (#11850888)
Pretty much anything that requires vehicles to use their brakes funds terrorism because every stop requires subsequent acceleration. Sure, the net effect from adding one stop sign is negligible, but it's tragedy of the commons. If everybody does it then it adds up.

And it's not just wasted fuel, it's wear on the vehicles (which harms used car reliability and negatively impacts the poor), stress on the vehicle occupants, time wasted, delayed emergency response time, etc. Multiply by a hundred million stop signs and turns into something worth optimizing.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by dsfyu404ed on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:17PM (#11851535)
As automation comes about detroit and the EPA will lean on the people who write laws to do things like make 4 way stops into 2 way stops, make it legal to rolling stop at a right turn, get rid of red arrows at dedicated left turn lanes that don't cross 3 lanes of traffic, etc etc in order to save fuel.

There will be a lot more flashing yellows in a few years.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by plttn on Monday June 06, 2016 @10:12PM (#11851946)
So every single gallon of gasoline used in every country is all provided by conflict petroleum?

By the same token, every plastic spork is funding terrorism.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by AnthonyMouse on Monday June 06, 2016 @10:33PM (#11852013)
> So every single gallon of gasoline used in every country is all provided by conflict petroleum?

Of course it is. Petroleum is a global commodity. If there is more demand anywhere then the price goes up and all sellers make more money.

> By the same token, every plastic spork is funding terrorism.

Only the ones that aren't recycled. Make sure you recycle your spork.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by hnal943 on Monday June 06, 2016 @10:48PM (#11852061)
Except there's currently a price war going on because of fracking. There's way more supply than there was a decade ago, most of it domestic.
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by AnthonyMouse on Monday June 06, 2016 @10:57PM (#11852079)
Which has no effect on the principle. Increasing the demand will increase the price regardless of whether the existing price is $2 or $4.