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Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by oftenwrong on Monday June 06, 2016 @01:45PM (#11848664)
Streets are not just paths for cars to pass-through on. They are a part of the places we live. They should be safe even for playing children. Cars can pass through cautiously, allowing children to move out of the way. It's not hard to share the space.
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by danielweber on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:14PM (#11848929)
We played in the street all the time growing up. Dead-end street. Any kid calls out "car" and we know to get out of the road for a minute.
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by JoshTriplett on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:28PM (#11849034)
It's a lot more reasonable in a dead-end or cul-de-sac, where any car is either going to one of the houses there or got lost, and where no vehicle should be moving at more than walking speed.
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by jdbernard on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:31PM (#11850070)
The same logic applies to non-dead-ends if only people who live in the neighborhood use them. That's why people don't want "their" neighborhood streets used as cut-throughs.
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by idbehold on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:04PM (#11850813)
Then those people should move to dead-end streets. Because again, it isn't "their" street. It's the public's street.
Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by jdbernard on Monday June 06, 2016 @07:09PM (#11851236)
You are correct. It is not "their" street. However, it is not unreasonable for people to expect that neighborhood streets not be flooded with traffic beyond what they were designed to handle nor put to purposes for which they were not designed.

It is a public street that was designed to service the neighborhood and the traffic traveling to the neighborhood. It is not a highway.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by pixl97 on Monday June 06, 2016 @02:06PM (#11848859)
>It's not hard to share the space.

It is easy to share a pie between two people. It is very hard to share a pie between 400 people. In the US roads ARE NOT designed as a shared space between people and cars. If you play in the road you could very well die due to one person on a phone when they shouldn't be.

Stay alive, keep off the road.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by oftenwrong on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:14PM (#11849933)
>In the US roads ARE NOT designed as a shared space between people and cars.

That's the problem. Kids cannot safely play in the street in many "safe" neighborhoods in the US. They should be able to, but they can't. Americans practically worship cars. The roads are treated like sacred land. Safety and happiness are set aside for the sake of motoring.

Re:Traffic-weary homeowners and Waze are at war by pixl97 on Wednesday June 08, 2016 @11:28AM (#11862867)
>They should be able to, but they can't.

Why should they be able to? Mass + velocity = splat. You can't deny the physics.

The Americans worshiping cars boat sailed like 70 years ago, it is too late to do anything significant about that in a short period of time without spending trillions. Unless you think replacing most of our infrastructure and moving massive numbers of people is a good idea.

And the roads are treated like scared land. They are the arteries and veins of our economy and life.