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Re:Enough with the Programming Puzzles by sametmax on Monday June 06, 2016 @04:47AM (#11845407)
In those other jobs get hired a lot :

    1 - by social networking;
    2 - on diploma.
For 1, The problem is, programmers will be recruited either by:

    - non programmers. And dev will likely not be found in the same social circles than those people;
    - programmers. Which tend to use a technical solution to all problems.
For 2, we all know now that you got as many good and bad dev, no matter the diploma, so people have given up.

And yes, dev are spoiled in the US, so recruiting technics move fast, trying to adapt. But in France, they are not, and we have the same old recruiting technics. And it's not better. Lot of bad dev are recruited.

Re:Enough with the Programming Puzzles by k__ on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:23AM (#11845683)
When I freelance, they just ask if I can get the job done.

When I get hired, they want me to do dumb tests.

The only difference for them is that they can stop paying me right away when I freelance, but when I'm an employee they have to pay me for at least 2 weeks to go (at least in Germany were we have 6 months probation time on new jobs, where you can be fired easily)

I made many people I worked for happy, but many people who gave me tests wouldn't even consider me as employee.

I don't know if I would have been a bad employee for the testing-companies, but I never had issues with employers or customers who hired me, so I have the feeling the companies who didn't hire me were missing out.