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Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by ThomPete on Sunday June 05, 2016 @03:47PM (#11842752)
We are physical beings and so I don't think anyone would ever say that meeting in person isn't the optimal.

But you need to look at this from different perspectives.

The very fact that people from around the world can meet so easily virtually today is in itself a value regardless of whether it's better to meet in person.

In other words, being able to meet virtually isn't about replacing actual physical visits it's about allowing you to meet a much larger group of people and perhaps find more likeminded people and at much greater distance.

So I am not sure I buy into the premise of this study.

I also am not so sure that I believe we are getting more lonely. I would need to see harder evidence than the typical qualitative studies that are done to determine this. Would love to see how they are actually getting to that conclusion.

Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by lewisl9029 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @04:30PM (#11842962)
Definitely.

I went to high school in Vancouver but left for college to Waterloo, which is on the other side of the continent. The only way I could have kept in touch with friends from high school who went to college in BC was through virtual mediums like Facebook, online gaming and voice chat.

Now that I'm back in Vancouver again, we naturally started hanging out physically again, but I'm fairly certain we would all have had a much more difficult time doing that had it not been for all the time we spent together virtually over these years.

Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by dTal on Sunday June 05, 2016 @06:41PM (#11843534)
It's rather like the argument that real books are superior to Kindles; that may be true, but a Kindle doesn't replace the book you have with you - it replaces the library you don't normally have with you. You can and probably should still read books at home, but on the go a Kindle allows to have more material available than you could otherwise carry.
Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by aaron695 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @09:33PM (#11844117)
> The very fact that people from around the world can meet so easily virtually today is in itself a value regardless of whether it's better to meet in person.

So the standard reply to this is because we are fine tuning our meetups we are missing out on serendipity.

Travelers stay in touch with home so much they don't need to meet people.

We are connected on the bus and at a restaurant such that we are not pushed to meet people.

Then when we go to the fine matched event there is too much pressure to make friends.

I would say I'm the same, I'd need harder evidence that we are not getting lonelier.

Without a doubt we are changing, so it is troubling we don't know for sure if it's better or worse, I doubt such a big change is neutral.

Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by ThomPete on Sunday June 05, 2016 @10:49PM (#11844343)
Serendipity happens online all the time.
Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by nnd on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:21PM (#11844453)
For example?
Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by ThomPete on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:44AM (#11845566)
People meet in World of Warcraft, the tons of online friends I have on Facebook or got from IRC, various forums. Some of them I have met.
Re:Study: To Beat Loneliness, Visits Must Be Real, Not Virtual by jestar_jokin on Monday June 06, 2016 @12:30AM (#11844667)
Someone posts a video on YouTube about some niche work; the original creator of that work posts a comment on the work and adds a little anecdote. (The work could be a game, or movie, or piece of music, or programming language; anything, really.)