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Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by iopq on Sunday June 05, 2016 @10:15AM (#11841054)
Pfft, it's much smaller than the number of atoms in the universe. Then again, after I read how to calculate Graham's number, I'm not impressed by much.
Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by IanCal on Sunday June 05, 2016 @02:20PM (#11842282)
TREE(3) is significantly larger, though the explanations as far as I've found them require understanding much more complicated maths than for Graham's number (at least, I can follow the explanation for Graham's number, but not TREE(3)).

The fun bit about TREE(3) is that the sequence TREE(1), TREE(2), TREE(3) goes :

TREE(1): 1

TREE(2): 3

TREE(3): explosion

n(4) is another fun one. n(3) is less than Graham's number, which itself is roughly A^64(4). n(4) is about A^A^(187196)(1)

http://everything2.com/title/TREE%25283%2529

Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by iopq on Monday June 06, 2016 @12:10AM (#11844599)
Am I understanding correctly we don't know how large TREE(3) is?
Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by nikbackm on Monday June 06, 2016 @01:47AM (#11844888)
I've only ever seen lower bound values given.

E.g. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/93828/how-large-is-tree3

Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by pdpi on Monday June 06, 2016 @08:06AM (#11846132)
If you've taken the time to figure out Graham's number, take a few minutes to familiarise yourself with the Ackerman function, so that you can grasp the full weight of this xkcd: https://xkcd.com/207/
Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by mylons on Sunday June 05, 2016 @12:39PM (#11841745)
do you mind linking to what you read on Graham's number? The wikipedia is interesting, but it seems like you found something more so
Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by Styx- on Sunday June 05, 2016 @12:43PM (#11841769)
Not OP, but Wait But Why did a great article on it a few weeks ago:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/11/1000000-grahams-number.html

Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by Amanjeev on Sunday June 05, 2016 @12:42PM (#11841765)
I have always enjoyed Numberphile and here is the man himself (Graham) explaining it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuigptwlVHo
Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by ufo on Sunday June 05, 2016 @02:37PM (#11842375)
If you like big numbers, this article is a must read:

http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/bignumbers.html

Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by jsprogrammer on Sunday June 05, 2016 @01:24PM (#11842001)
Wildberger recently provided a more systematic approach (though Graham's number is not mentioned explicitly) to hyperoperations in one of his videos [0]. He also discusses some implications of working with numbers so large (including in other videos of the series).

[0] https://youtu.be/Wv65xhrJ0zc

Re:To approximate 52! by hand, compute 54! and divide by 3000 by 112233 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @05:08PM (#11843134)
you might enjoy reading the analysis of loader.c number here:

http://djm.cc/bignum-results.txt