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Re:FBI Kept Demanding Email Records Despite DOJ Saying It Ne... by PavlovsCat on Friday June 03, 2016 @02:14AM (#11828661)
I think you also have to organize and get money out of and honest people into politics. Just consider Stav Shaffir, who near the end of this video makes some very good points about idealists and their aversion to power:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eqCprXn_UY

If more people were "more like that", and if more of them would manage the "quantum leap" into serious politics, that would still be slow and painful, but at least more than asking for things or offering facts. Don't get me wrong, that is all very necessary and good, but it's not quite enough IMHO.

Re:FBI Kept Demanding Email Records Despite DOJ Saying It Ne... by krashnburn200 on Friday June 03, 2016 @11:23AM (#11830828)
>organize

If only there were not an agency dedicated to the disruption of organized opposition.

It's incredibly simple to disrupt emerging organizations in to chaos when you have access to everyone's metadata. You don't have to assassinate anyone, you don't even have to discredit all of the important nodes, although that's a useful tool. Many of the critical nodes won't recognize themselves as such. Divert them to other interests, personal, professional, philosophical/moral or legal... And a movement sputters and scatters in to emephera instead of transitioning in to an effective force for change.

Social judo is vastly more effective than jackboots ever dream of being.