While Seafile seems to work, the developers have been kinda sloppy both with licensing[1] and security[2]. The answers on both issues really make me question their integrity and ability to deliver a secure piece of software.

[1] https://github.com/haiwen/seafile/issues/666

[2] https://github.com/haiwen/seafile/issues/350

OwnCloud actually has security issues similar to what you cited in the second link. Their security track record isn't spectacular either.

https://blog.hboeck.de/archives/880-Pwncloud-bad-crypto-in-t...

I'd like to point you to https://statuscode.ch/2015/09/ownCloud-security-development-... and make you aware of https://seacloud.cc/group/3/wiki/security-records.md and you should probably consider who reported the last critical vulnerability.

Only because a project is serious about actually publishing vulnerability data does not make it necessarily more insecure (or secure).

I agree. Just pointing out that the specific problem the above poster mentioned as a reason to choose OwnCloud also is similarly true of OwnCloud.

https://blog.hboeck.de/archives/880-Pwncloud-bad-crypto-in-t...

The impact is a different one though. In that scenario pointed by Hanno somebody needs to have access to the storage which already requires some kind of previous gained access. What could be done by an attacker then is to infect EXE files or so.

In the case of Seafile one could simply change passwords of any user etc.

But yes, crypto is hard and I agree that the way we did it at ownCloud is far away from the best way. :-)

I hope there can be an updateable packet in Debian again with this fork.

The reason I prefer Owncloud to Seafile is that my files are stored as my files. I have a script that copies the photos I upload to Owncloud over to my NAS automatically.

Yes, there's FUSE, but I still prefer the way Owncloud handles my files.

I've been mucking around with Owncloud from the beginning and it's always been a pain (non-default configs never work as you expect, updating is a pain, installation is a pain, etc). Tried Syncthing and it was worse (I want central control, SyncTrayzor is obnoxious, doesn't "just work" as it's supposed to via upnp). Never heard of Seafile before but it looks way better, I'm going to give it a shot!

I've been using https://pydio.com for the last 6~8 months, and so far so good. I came over from owncloud. Admittedly, I had planned to use for my family of 3, but I'm really the only one using/syncing stuff. THe server side for pydio has been great, though their Windows client has had a few little issues. In all cases they were easy to fix, and ultimately caused no damage to server data (who knows it could even be a local Win/laptop issue). Though pydio is php-based, while seafile IIRC is python (I like both languages so doesn't matteer to me, but thought you might want to know ahead of time).