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Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by dllthomas on Thursday June 02, 2016 @01:18AM (#11820543)
> Try to dodge the tax man for enough money there will be gunmen at your door to take you to prison.

Eventually, yes. That's also true if you try to dodge your local restaurant, after availing yourself of their services.

Of course the practical inability to refrain from "using" government is a big difference! But it needs to be included in the analysis - it is not as simple as "if you don't pay, there will eventually be force; ergo it is robbery".

Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by lugg on Thursday June 02, 2016 @03:23AM (#11820900)
I think you and I are on the same point for this so there isn't much point going further.
Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by dllthomas on Thursday June 02, 2016 @12:07PM (#11823651)
Probably not quite the same point - I think there's clearly some difference between paying for my meal and paying taxes, but I also think there's clearly some difference between paying taxes and paying a mugger (especially in a well-functioning society).

I just don't think the first difference is well expressed by pointing out that force is eventually involved.

Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by lugg on Thursday June 02, 2016 @08:11PM (#11827347)
That would entirely depend on how you feel about taxes and how you're government uses them.

As someone who's experienced both a muggings and police brutality I'm not really going to see much of a difference.

Re:Moving Forward on Basic Income by dllthomas on Sunday June 05, 2016 @02:47AM (#11839935)
If it's simply a question of feelings, then I agree this isn't likely to wind up anywhere interesting. Best.