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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by sametmax on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @12:00PM (#11807312)
But again, who draw the line ? I don't feel threaten by somebody saying that to me on the net. I don't censor it even on my comments. Maybe somebody will feel threaten by something about going to "see what've done with your shitty new restaurant". Are you going to remove that too ?

And are you really sure the sure the line will not be moved after ? Because this is such an opportunity for politics. But also just for any entities with a moral or economic agenda.

And will the censorship be done by humans ? Or will machine will stop a quotation from a book or a movie containing it ?

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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by soundwave106 on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @01:11PM (#11807976)
Well, this is politics. I gather that this is largely driven by the European Union...

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1937_en.htm

... so "the line" is basically whatever European Union says is "illegal hate speech" as per this announcement. (The announcement makes it seem that it is largely targeted at terrorism and racism, at least for now).

I agree with you, though, in that personally I'm not the biggest fan of "hate speech" laws. They seem like a ripe target for political abuse.

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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:06PM (#11809177)
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by talmand on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @05:17PM (#11810335)
>> They seem like a ripe target for political abuse.

What? It is already is in several places around the world.

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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by gadders on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @12:19PM (#11807445)
Well, would threatening to kill someone in the real world be legal? I don't believe so. Or do you think the threat is less credible if given online?
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by wnoise on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @07:29PM (#11811091)
In the U.S.? "True threats" are illegal, but that only covers threats that are reasonably believable.

> Or do you think the threat is less credible if given online?

Do you not?

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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by gadders on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @05:23AM (#11813084)
I think the "true threat" is a good bar, though. It would stop things like the prosecution of a guy here in the UK that joked about blowing up an airport because his girlfriend's flight was delayed.
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by gadders on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @04:27AM (#11812859)
It's not happened to me, but yes I would think it less credible. However, I have a wife and daughter that might not.
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by sametmax on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @12:46PM (#11807672)
That's not the point. The point is that it's a pandora box.
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by jasonlotito on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @01:30PM (#11808233)
> That's not the point. The point is that it's a pandora box.

If it's a "box," then frankly, that box was opened long ago, long before the internet or computers.

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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by 0x6c6f6c on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @02:27PM (#11808791)
`Censorship of hate speech on the internet` was opened long before the internet?
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by jasonlotito on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @04:19PM (#11809865)
Censorship of hate speech through various mediums. Don't be pedantic.
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Re:Facebook and Twitter pledge to remove hate speech within ... by st3v3r on Tuesday May 31, 2016 @03:00PM (#11809120)
I disagree. Banning threats like that would not have any negative consequences. If anything, it would encourage people to post more, as they no longer have to worry about dealing with that huge mountain of shit, which is incredibly demoralizing and discourages people from posting.
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