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Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by greenpizza13 on Friday May 27, 2016 @01:59PM (#11787717)
Yeah, this irks me as well. Why does this even have to come into play. Why not just thank Dr. Heimlich and give him all the well deserved credit?

This lady could have just as easily been one of the millions of people since the maneuver was invented to have not been sitting next to Dr. Heimlich when they began to choke.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by Styx- on Friday May 27, 2016 @02:09PM (#11787782)
Why shit all over someone else's way of viewing the world if it doesn't affect you?

And none of the nonsense about Christians that don't believe in global warming or abortions or something, because you have no idea of this woman's stance on any of that.

Disclaimer: I'm as agnostic as they come.

EDIT: Let me add that I think it's ridiculous to criticize religious people for being religious. It is regressive and promotes animosity between the religious and the rest of us. A truly religious person will sooner die than give up their religion.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by Panoramix on Friday May 27, 2016 @02:24PM (#11787878)
Nobody was shitting over anything.

I certainly do not think it's ridiculous to criticize religion. It's 2016, some supernatural beliefs should not get a free pass just because people will feel offended. However, choose your battles. Elderly people saying a very common phrase is hardly something to get worked up about.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by PKop on Friday May 27, 2016 @02:40PM (#11787993)
You make a bold assumption that "it doesn't affect you" (surely you'd agree this is up for debate no?), then the very next sentence describe political views that can be attributed directly to religious beliefs you're claiming have no affect on anyone.

All ideas should be up for criticism. It is the very nature of religion somehow being off limits for debate that allows bad ideas to go unchallenged and spread.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by Styx- on Friday May 27, 2016 @03:01PM (#11788142)
All ideas should be up for criticism, yes. But not all ideas should be criticized.

The difference being that some criticisms are productive (presumably fresh, creative takes on thinking about something) and some simply serve the purpose of making the critic feel good about himself.

In what way do we benefit to hear a criticism of religion for the umpteen-millionth time and on the internet of all places? No one is refining their thought processes, no one is benefiting.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by PKop on Friday May 27, 2016 @03:17PM (#11788239)
No one? The data flat out refutes that claim: http://religionnews.com/2014/08/01/five-signs-great-decline-...

Looks like many have been refining their thought process. Perhaps it's from all of the criticism on the internet?

Just because all minds won't be swayed doesn't mean some won't be.

I do think criticizing the idea is more valid than criticizing the person who believes in that idea.

It sounds like what you mean to say is not all ideas need to be criticized always and everywhere they are present. Makes sense.

If you mean that religion should not be criticized anymore we've done it enough.... I don't see how this is not that same as saying religion is an idea that should not be up for criticism. Why is it special?

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by Styx- on Friday May 27, 2016 @04:43PM (#11788852)
There is a time and place. An article about Dr. Heimlich in which some senior citizen invokes an age old remark isn't it.

Once you can show me the data on the benefit from that single remark, and that it doesn't correlate with the concept of 'diminishing returns' strongly, then I'll concede.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by umanwizard on Friday May 27, 2016 @02:12PM (#11787796)
Did I think I was on hackernews but accidentally visited reddit? (I've been here for long enough that I'm allowed to say that according to the rules, btw). How does a super facile refutation of people's traditional beliefs advance the discussion at all?
Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by ewzimm on Friday May 27, 2016 @02:17PM (#11787831)
While I completely understand why this is an annoying point of view, the apparent contradiction is well understood. The official theology of many religions is that everything good comes from God, everything bad comes from people. God gave people some freedom, and they abused it to create all the problems of the world, which he is constantly working to correct, but he leaves a lot of the negative effects of our choices for our own good because we need to understand how much we need him and lots of other mysterious reasons that we wouldn't understand because we're too limited to see the big picture.

It's totally legitimate to complain about not liking this point of view, but people do know what they're doing when they thank God for everything good and blame people for everything bad. I think it's important for non-religious people to understand that because so much of the world is religious and believes that God sets the standard for what's true, not the appearance of things which we're able to understand and reason through.

Re:Dr Heimlich saves choking woman with manoeuvre he invented by woodman on Friday May 27, 2016 @02:56PM (#11788113)
> ...everything bad comes from people.

You forgot the Devil, he gets blamed every so often.