Re:Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub
by prodigal_erik on Thursday May 26, 2016 @05:29PM
(#11781806)
Was that percentage equally high in 1990? Fresh grads are not qualified for management.
Re:Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub
by atom-morgan on Thursday May 26, 2016 @04:44PM
(#11781408)
We can determine bias simply by comparing one company's numbers to national trends?
I said probable bias, and yes.
Re:Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub
by atom-morgan on Friday May 27, 2016 @09:48AM
(#11785980)
As you reduce geographical scope, national trends aren't as relevant or realistic.
> Because the percentage of black GitHubbers in management positions is far below e.g. the percentage of e.g. black people with CS degrees in the US
Where's the data for this? Often people talk about these things as assumptions, but I've never seen credible data. Can you share a source?
Furthermore, even the comparison that you mentioned is not accurate. It should start from a funnel like: "the number of qualified black applicants to GitHub with CS degrees", or something along those lines. GitHub can't hire people that don't apply.
Re:Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub
by ascendingPig on Thursday May 26, 2016 @05:37PM
(#11781863)
Starting from only the people who apply gives a free pass to biased recruitment.
Re:Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub
by GunboatDiplomat on Thursday May 26, 2016 @06:17PM
(#11782122)
What, you want them to go kidnap black people and force them to apply?
So you don't think it's a problem if their ads say "whites only"? Or if they only advertise to white people? Or are you thinking "nobody would say whites only" and just totally unaware of the many ways that language and targeting can affect who applies to a job, sometimes skewing the pool of applicants in unintended ways? A nice, nobody-meant-it way to bias your candidate pool: only hire people who know an existing employee. White Americans mostly know white Americans.
You're asking for a citation for zero being less than non-zero? :)
Re:Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub
by yummyfajitas on Thursday May 26, 2016 @06:59PM
(#11782377)
He's asking for a citation that the probability of seeing zero is small (p<0.05 if you want to be frequentist about it), contingent on a proper funnel analysis and no bias.
You're making it about individuals, not GitHub. They're comparing statistics.