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Re:Visiting Chelsea Manning in prison by henrikschroder on Thursday May 26, 2016 @11:58AM (#11778978)
> "Correct" is silly to even discuss relative to this topic.

How about "polite"?

It's exactly as rude to use the wrong pronoun about a person, as it is to use the wrong name. It's common decency to call people what they want to be called, and it's not exactly hard to do either.

Re:Visiting Chelsea Manning in prison by lliamander on Thursday May 26, 2016 @12:31PM (#11779276)
Politeness is culturally contingent. For example, I have lived in places where making a special effort to hold open doors for women is a social obligation, as well as places where it is deeply offensive.

Is it appropriate sometimes to violate those norms? Certainly, when those norms involve a violation of higher moral principles. Principles such as not saying things you believe to be false.

> How about "polite"?

So, you're saying that people should not openly disagree merely because it is impolite?

Re:Visiting Chelsea Manning in prison by henrikschroder on Thursday May 26, 2016 @01:13PM (#11779668)
- Hello, my name is Henrik.

- I disagree, I'm going to call you Steve.

- ???

Re:Visiting Chelsea Manning in prison by lliamander on Thursday May 26, 2016 @02:34PM (#11780391)
I agree that your interlocutor is being ridiculous.

But the analogy doesn't hold because your interlocutor doesn't have any reason to disagree with your statement; they're just being a troll.

In any case, someone might rationally object to any such analogies because they disagree that there is an equivalence between names and pronouns.

Re:Visiting Chelsea Manning in prison by frogpelt on Thursday May 26, 2016 @04:06PM (#11781060)
Ok, that makes sense.

However, hypothetically speaking if someone wanted to be called a name that I considered to be vulgar or offensive, I would not call them that.

Re:Visiting Chelsea Manning in prison by henrikschroder on Friday May 27, 2016 @03:34AM (#11784468)
Yes, but we're not talking about a vulgar name, we're talking about a person that presents as female, has a female name, looks female, but was born a male, who simply wishes people would adress her as a "she".

This is not burdensome. This is not onerous. This does no harm. Just honour her wish. Why wouldn't you?