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Re:Four hundred miles with Tesla’s autopilot forced me to tr... by Ntrails on Thursday May 26, 2016 @05:29AM (#11776670)
> I'm trying to think of a scenario outside of a mechanic's garage that emergency braking would ever be disabled. This should really be mandatory on all cars.

So there's an accident, and I swerve to avoid. I think I'm going to make it but the car isn't certain so it brakes, and it brakes really fucking hard. At this point who is responsible for what happens? Breaking like that fundamentally changes the behaviour of the car. If I had just braked, maybe I stop in time maybe I don't - I chose another option and it is completely valid.

The very idea of that kind of behaviour terrifies me. I'll take a 100% automated car with pleasure, but I have no interest at all in this hybrid control concept. I would turn that shit off on delivery.

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Re:Four hundred miles with Tesla’s autopilot forced me to tr... by sangnoir on Thursday May 26, 2016 @09:12AM (#11777610)
> So there's an accident, and I swerve to avoid. I think I'm going to make it but the car isn't certain so it brakes, and it brakes really fucking hard. At this point who is responsible for what happens?

I'm having problems understanding your scenario. How exactly does the car breaking prevent you from swerving? The brakes should only stop your car mid-swerve, and you wouldn't collide. The only scenario when speed is an advantage when swerving is when you're trying to needle into an opening in the next lane and you need to match the speed of a 3rd car

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Re:Four hundred miles with Tesla’s autopilot forced me to tr... by daveguy on Thursday May 26, 2016 @10:26AM (#11778161)
When swerving you should not apply the brake. It will cause you to lose control in the swerve.
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Re:Four hundred miles with Tesla’s autopilot forced me to tr... by Kadin on Thursday May 26, 2016 @11:59AM (#11778986)
Not with a decent ABS system, and all the cars that have automatic braking have pretty good ABS.
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Re:Four hundred miles with Tesla’s autopilot forced me to tr... by marvin on Thursday May 26, 2016 @12:18PM (#11779159)
Braking uses all the traction between your tires and the road to slow down your car, and you will be unable to turn. In the case of ABS, you will turn at a slower rate than if you hadn't been braking.
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