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Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by varjag on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @06:54AM (#11760392)
Yeah well no. All these parties have fear based platform, xenophobic agenda and authoritarian sympathies.

The real reason they are opposed to EU is not that their politicians somehow shun power, but because humanitarian values of current European legislation are in the way.

Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by ThomPete on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:09AM (#11760504)
They are definitely originally built on that, but that's not why they keep adding voters. This is where most analysts go wrong and why they are surprised every time there is an election in Europe.

It's about fear of change, about being left behind. Not out of choice but out of lack benefit from technology, globalization etc.

They are not benefitting from it so why should they keep voting from it?

Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by varjag on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:23AM (#11760586)
There's hardly anyone living in EU who did not benefit from technology and globalization. We're not talking Haiti here.

Your remark about fear of change though is quite apt.

Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by ThomPete on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:54AM (#11760763)
Not that kind of benefit, but you already knew this :)

The one that affect their personal lives. Jobs, education, cost of living, what they have compared to others.

Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by golemotron on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:21AM (#11760575)
"Fear of change" is a negative frame. Maybe they know what change causes and simply don't want it.
Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by ThomPete on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:24AM (#11760592)
Then their numbers wouldnt be increasing.
Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by golemotron on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:28AM (#11760618)
They certainly would. People often make new decisions about what they want.
Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by ThomPete on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:58AM (#11760794)
People dont just change positions that radically. We are talking about normal voters who used to vote left or even social liberal and conservative.

They never even consider race. They vote the parties because their lifes are affected negatively what you and i see as opportunity. If you dont understand that you dont understand why trump and right wing increases their supporters and you will continue to fight the wrong battles.

Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by golemotron on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @08:05AM (#11760834)
You seem to have it all figured out. I wish you well.
Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by SNvD7vEJ on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:11AM (#11760521)
Absolutely, and these parties are posing as a solution to whatever the current problem happens to be (populism).

People looking for simplification, maybe because they are unable to understand more complex situations, tend to go for the shallow, simple-looking, party.

Re:How Far Is Europe Swinging to the Right? by ThomPete on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @08:14AM (#11760895)
And people who are well educated seems to like complex systems for the sake of it. The world is literally filled with academics who loved and proposed complex systems to the detriment of the rest. It should come as no surprise that a combination of EU and the recent influx of refugees and immigrants is causing a reaction when people don't feel they get heard.