Re:Exercise Tied to Lower Risk for Some Types of Cancer
by jimrandomh on Thursday May 19, 2016 @04:13PM
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The correct study is one where some participants get an intervention to make them exercise more, and some are left alone. There's no ethical issue, but running such a study would be difficult and expensive.
Adjusting for BMI does not solve the problem, because there are many things besides BMI (unmeasured confounders) which affect both cancer risk and willingness to exercise.
Re:Exercise Tied to Lower Risk for Some Types of Cancer
by ekianjo on Thursday May 19, 2016 @09:56PM
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And BMI is a pseudo science measure anyway. Its been proven to be a poor indicator in about every disease many times before.
Re:Exercise Tied to Lower Risk for Some Types of Cancer
by vagabondvector on Thursday May 19, 2016 @04:07PM
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the problem is that on noisy data, that adjustment of the variables isn't really as statistically clean as maths would say.
it's the same with red meat causes cancer studies. they say they remove smoking and lack of exercise and still wave the statistical significance.
it's very questionable how they removed the influence of these variables, since meat eaters do smoke way more, and do not exercise, and care about their health less.
Re:Exercise Tied to Lower Risk for Some Types of Cancer
by jimrandomh on Thursday May 19, 2016 @04:14PM
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Actually, I think noise is a red herring, and that worrying about noise (instead of worrying about unmeasured confounders and incorrect causal structures) is how epidemiology got into this mess in the first place.
They did however:
> Body mass index adjustment modestly attenuated associations for several cancers, but 10 of 13 inverse associations remained statistically significant after this adjustment.
So even for two thin people, exercise seems to have helped. I legitimately don't see how you could design a study that you'd be satisfied with.