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Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by aidenn0 on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:12PM (#11709665)
Do you happen to know how many units the largest residential building in NYC has? It would be interesting to know the minimum number of buildings needed to cover the 200k unit deficit.

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Thanks for all the replies!

So it looks like we are talking about a minimum of hundreds of buildings to be torn-down and rebuilt taller. That seems unlikely to happen in SF proper.

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:26PM (#11709768)
"A West 57th Street project by developer TF Cornerstone will be New York City’s largest apartment building when completed, with 1,189 units, according to city records."

http://therealdeal.com/2013/11/12/tf-cornerstones-606-west-5...

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by patmcguire on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:36PM (#11709828)
3333 Broadway has 1200. It's technically five buildings, although they are all connected, so I don't know how they decide that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside_Park_Community

It's also a monster of a building. I kind of get the NIMBY vibe if it's about that, it's just too big, sucks up all the energy.

There are a few like that this (Galaxy Towers in Guttenberg). They're all old, though, they don't build new stuff like that.

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by rayiner on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:40PM (#11709853)
I don't know about New York. I lived in a two-tower complex in Chicago, 45-stories with over 1,000 apartments total.

But you don't need tons of high-rises. Having everything be free-standing buildings is the larger problem. Blocks of mid-rises is what drives density in places like Paris: https://agingmodernism.wordpress.com/category/sarcelles.

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by twic on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:30PM (#11709794)
423 Park Avenue is the tallest [1]. 412 637 square feet, containing 104 apartments.

I have no idea what fraction of the floor area is apartments, but if it was all of it, they would average 3968 square feet, which seems huge. If everyone got the same modest but comfortable 820 square feet i have, there could be 503 apartments. At that rate, you'd need about 400 towers to make 200 000 apartments.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/432_Park_Avenue

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by krschultz on Monday May 16, 2016 @06:59PM (#11710280)
A pretty high fraction of each floor is apartments, the problem is that the apartments are huge. I'm pretty sure the penthouses actually span two floors. The lower floors probably have 2 or 3 units per floor.

More moderate apartment buildings would have had several units per floor, but that building was built to be the most prestigious in the city.

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by sf_rob on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:23PM (#11709750)
Interesting idea. It looks like the largest in terms of number of units built in 2014-2015 in NYC was 815 units, so you would need 246 of them to get to 200000+ units.

http://therealdeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/NYC-Condo-...

Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by makomk on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:39PM (#11709846)
That 815 units was a proposal, not something that's actually been built. It appears the company intending to build it has since cut the proposed size to 646 units, and that's big even for NYC - the biggest on that list that's actually being constructed is 246 units and the sizes drop rapidly from there. So you'd be looking at a thousand or so NYC-sized buildings, in an area probably considerably less suited to them than NYC. (Oh, and the estimates I can find claim that apartments in that building are selling for about $2,000 per square foot. I think that's expensive even compared to SF prices. What's more, anyone who complains that SF housing development is too slow needs to realise that 246-unit building is part of a construction project originally proposed in the late 80s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside_South )
Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by cylinder on Tuesday May 17, 2016 @09:31AM (#11713436)
Not one building, but the Stuyvesant Town complex in Manhattan has 30,000+ residents and it sits on 80 acres with 89 buildings, and lots of green space, basketball courts, etc. It's a very livable place.
Re:Employment, construction, and the cost of San Francisco a... by aaronbwebber on Monday May 16, 2016 @05:24PM (#11709755)
I dunno, but the Rincon towers in SF have something like 300 units each, so you are talking about several hundred Rincon-sized buildings or a few thousand 50-100 unit buildings.